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1.    The cursor will jump from bottom to top  left to right and visa versa when the ex   tremes of the TEXT area are reached     Press the    EDIT    key to remove the cursor from the screen when you have  finished typing to put the Text Writer in VIEW mode        Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 10    DVR CF CARD COMPATABILITY       Before starting a recording it is  good practice to check how much  space Is left on the CF card  When  the    DVR status    shows    Ready      press 6  the    DISP    button  The     DVR status    will show    Busy    for a  time and then the display as shown  here will be displayed  The exam   ple shown indicates that there is 4  minutes of recording time left on  the CF card  84MB      After 3 seconds the DVR will return  to the    Ready    state    CF cards are readily available in  various storage sizes     The recording time that can fitona  single card is dependant on its stor   age size       CompactFlash  CompactFlash       A 4GB card will store 4 hours of re   cordings    A 1GB card will store 1 hour of re   cordings 25  AB  40x speed  A 512MB card will store 30 minutes   ee pa ctflash     of recordings HE St US ld       Troglotech reccommends using 4GB cards with at least a    80x    speed rating such  as the SANDISK III Extreme  Cards with a lower speed rating will not allow  recordings to be made  Do not use cards with a capacity greater than 4GB as  these are generally too slow to operate correctly  Please note that Windows 98  machi
2. 04 User Manual Page 20       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 5    USING AN EXTERNAL VIDEO RECORDER        Lead as shown here  Use the cable  clips to hold to frame    POWER      Ay ym g  Yi  empty    m    Danger          The T804 has an On Screen display  on all models to show the current  Power Cell charge  The display will  inform you if charging is required by  flashing the    B    symbol  This symbol  will also be shown during recording if  charging is required  The T804 can be  powered by the optional 12V lead  from a vehicle cigar socket  If the          symbol appears the voltage is too  high and may cause damage  discon   nect immediately       Connect the optional External Video              ye  Recorder is    From Reco rder    Connect to external recorder  The  T804 will select video from the re   corder automatically       When using the optional 12V lead the  Power Cell will be charged at the  same time as the T804 is operated   The rate of charge is dependant on  the vehicle   s battery condition  the  Power Cell has a charge processor  that will not allow the T804 to com   pletely drain the vehicle battery  Full  charge of the Power Cell from a 12V  supply requires that the engine is run   ning  We recommend the Mains  Charger for a complete charge        Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 6       MAI NT AI NANCE    MAINTAINANCE   T804 SYSTEM    When the Rod is returned to the coiler ensure that most debris is removed  although  the T804 is fully sealed to IP 67 
3. DRAINCHEM 22     DMENSIONS O O OOOO o o oee   20  C to  85  C  storage   0  C to 50  C  operating    SYSTEM INPUT VOLTAGE 10 8V     14 6V    MISSIONTME   SH fora agi charg ote Poner Cal    ACCES ORIES       WARNING    The T804 is a battery operated system   never operate the T804 when connected  to a mains supply  The mains charger  must never be operated on site and is  for indoor use only  Failure to comply to  this warning may endanger lives       IN LINE SONDE      12Hz 640Hz  8 192Hz and 32 768Hz available  Other frequencies made to order    DEALER INFORMATION       12V EXTENSION LEAD             Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 24       SEWER MAINTENANCE PRODUCTS ABN  50645068573    OPERATIN GINSTRUCTIONS    T 804 SYSTEM    Sun shade               LCD Monitor      Digital Video    DVR Recorder    Controls  On Off  Switch     Text Writer    Power  Cell    T800 Camera       Troglotec h T804 Use r Man ual Page 1       QUICK START GUIDE NEW BATTERY LEVEL I NDI CAT OR    BATTERY LEVEL METER    The Battery Level Meter on Software Version 2 0 and above is  changed to a segmented symbol rather than the plain white me   ter in previous versions of software  This gives a better indication  of the battery level  The flashing         and    B    symbols are retained  as before        Slot Power Cell into frame and push Release brake and thread termination  upwards to lock in place through rod guide       Switch Unit ON                       Press the Rod Counter button until the Ad
4. ER VARIOUS FUNCTIONS    To delete single characters  for instance when a mistake is made while typing   press the    DELETE      key while in EDIT mode  The DELETE key will delete the  character that is displayed above the flashing cursor  As the cursor moves when a  character is typed you will have to press the DELETE key twice  once to move the  cursor back to the character and once again to delete that character  Each press of  the DELETE key deletes the character above the cursor AND moves the cursor  back by one position  Use the cursor buttons to move the cursor around the screen  to select any character that needs deleting     Whole pages of text can be deleted  for instance when a new Survey is started and  the page contains old information  To delete a whole page of text put the Text  Writer in VIEW mode  no    Upper Lower case    arrow displayed  and use the  buttons to display the page of text you want to delete     Then press the key once  The lower part of the screen will now display the  message    DELETE PAGE  Y or N     Pressing the    Y    key will now delete the current  page of text  Pressing any other key will NOT delete the page of text           The Text Writer can display the TEXT area in three differ   d ent modes as shown in the first three pictures         5s To switch between the display modes  select VIEW mode  290 0  15  using the    EDIT       key and then use the keys to    eee switch between the three modes  The display modes  ge  loop between 
5. Hub ble  use the clips to position Link Ca     ble safely  Ready for operation        Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 7    USING THE ROD COUNTER         lt  000 0       sail FETE  UL a    Counter requires calibration  This is a  simple process  Return all rod to the  coiler so that the camera termination is  against the Rod Guide  Press the Rod  Counter Button for 3 seconds and the  calibration message will change from     Calibrate Counter    to    Counter cal   brated       The Rod Counter can be operated in  Imperial  feet and 10ths of feet  or Met   ric mode  Metres and 10ths of Metres    To switch between the two modes  press the Rod Counter Button momen   tarily  the display will change from         Imperial to  m  Metric    lf a relative measurement needs to be  made between two points during a sur   vey  press the Rod Counter button for  less than 2 seconds  This will zero the  counter  press again to return to the  Original measurement units  Metres or  Feet   The Rod Counter will now count  up or down from the point where the  button was pressed to give a relative  measurement  This does not affect the  calibration as long as the button is  pressed for less than 2 seconds          Making accurate measurements  As  the Rod Counter relies on the rotation of  the coiler it is important that the coiler  brake is set correctly  When letting Rod  out from the T804  the coiler may not  rotate freely if the brake is set too  fiercely  Ensure that the brake is set so  that 
6. NCREASE   new value  The DAYS display   will now be highlighted in yellow  EN SET TIME  Use the same procedure for O     DAYS and YEARS     0000S  button  this will now highlight the    HOURS figure in the box below   Set the TIME using the same  routine as that used for the  DATE     When you are happy that the  DATE is set correctly  press the       When you are happy that the TIME is set correctly  press the button  This will re   turn the DVR to the    Ready    state       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 17    USING THE TEXTWRITER BASICGS       DVR CF CARD ERAS   NG FORMAT TING    CF cards can be reused almost  indefinately  Once the recordings have  been transferred to a DVD or to a  computer the CF card can be entrirely  erased  formatted         15 05 29 24 Jan 2007    text  text  text  text  text  text  text  text  text    To erase a complete CF card  better  known as formatting  follow this  procedure        gami gai pai i ped pah gomed ed queni    esip pama pumo pant panda pod a posh o paan a paa a  LLLLLLLL   M non    Ensure that the T804 DVR is    Ready    as shown  by the symbol in the    DVR status display        Press the FORMAT    amp  button  After a short while  the T804 screen will show the picture pictured to  the right  Press the    Left    button to highlight the     YES    box and then press the    YES    button  After  Formatting the DVR will return to    Ready     this  may take up to a minute depending on the size  and speed of the CF card  TEXT are
7. PLAIN  BORDERED  BOXED and then back  SEE to PLAIN again    To set the Time and Date press the    CHANGE    key once    The screen will turn to Grey and the TEXT area will be cleared  The HOURS dis   play will now be flashing  use the buttons to increase or decrease the hours  value       Once the HOURS are correct press the    CHANGE    key once  this locks the  new value  The MINUTES display will now be flashing     Use the same procedure for MINUTES  DAYS  MONTHS and YEARS     A final press of the    CHANGE    key will display the live picture again        Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 11    DVR BASIC FUNCTIONS       Allow the T804 to initialize so that the DVR  000 0m  status indicator seen on the T804 display shows  the    READY    symbol and the Status LED is  GREEN     GREEN   DVR READY  CF card can be re  DVR status  moved or replaced  ready for operation     OFF   DVR BUSY  DVR is busy  do NOT re   move CF card        FLASHING RED   RECORDING  The LED will  only flash if recording successfully  if the LED  does not flash the CF card is full  missing or  faulty           Use the    Display Time Left    button to check that  there is sufficient space left on the CF card for  your survey          Press    Record    to start the recording  When  you have finished recording  press    Stop    to  stop recording  Ensure that the Status LED is  flashing RED  If the LED does not flash RED  then the CF card is incompatible OR the CF  card is full        Press    Play    to 
8. a    Rod counter Time  H M S  Date      Upcrede _  000 0m 17 56 30 23 Jan 2007    This is text line 1    crade vice       Flashing cursor       This is text line 9  Counter not calibrated t P1 E    Once the CF card is Formatted it will be completely empty and you can record as  though this was a brand new CF card  The card will not be damaged in any way by  Formatting and this can be performed as many times as required        Status line messages Upper Lower case Page number DVR status    To Erase a single recording  first PLAY the recording you want to delete  see     DVR PLAYING RECORDINGS      while the recording is playing press the  FORMAT    2 button  The screen will change to  that shown here  Press the    Left    button  ims ter  to highlight the    YES    box and then press the OORL Selerted     YES    button  The recording that was playing will Delete Files 7  be deleted and the next recording  if one is  present on the card  will start playing     The    Status line messages    area is  used for giving the operator informa   tion such as    Calibrate Counter    and     Counter Calibrated     This area is also  used to send messages to the opera   tor when using the Text Writer     The    Rod Counter        Time    and    Date     can be displayed or hidden using the       keys  These toggle the  display     The position of these displays is fixed  and cannot be altered  they always  appear on the top line in the same or   der     You can now press the STOP    butto
9. ained below     Rod Counter   The selection of Imperial or Metric  units can be changed by pressing  the    C    key on the keyboard when  the Text Writer is in VIEW mode  the  cursor is not shown on the screen    This selection is stored and is re   membered even when the T804 is  switched OFF  On SW Version 1 0  the Rod Counter Units would change  whenever the    CAL    button was  pressed  this is not the case with SW  Version 2        COUNTER UNITS KEY PAGE KEY MUTE KEY    NON EDIT KEYS    On T804 systems where a Text Writer is  NOT fitted  the selection of Imperial and  Metric units is performed by holding  down the    Cal    button while the unit is  switched from OFF to ON  Keep the    Cal     button pressed until the    Troglotech Ltd     welcome screen is shown  the Units will  now change from Imperial to Metric and  visa versa  The Units selection is remem   bered even when the unit is switched  OFF    Troslotech Ltd    7804 push  Www troslot    rod s4siven  is on fool          Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 21    DAY PROCEDURE          Tac Bane  lt 0 0   oes 206  Switch unit OFF Close the sunshade  fold Control Unit  flat against keyboard    a DIDI  NI DIUI VS       Remove Power Cell by pressing both  ready for transportation buttons and lowering the Power Cell       Charger lead       i  ai 5          The Power Cell can be charge                 d whilst  fitted to the frame if preferred  DO NOT OPERATE DURING CHARGE    will take 4   6 Hours        Troglotech T8
10. e of text put the Text Writer in VIEW mode  Upper Lower case  symbol NOT displayed      Pressing the button will increase the page number and display that page   Pressing the button will decrease the page number and display that page     Both buttons loop the page number  from 9 to 1 and from 1 to 9 respectively     If no text needs to be displayed press the    CLEAR       button  this will remove  the text from the screen  it will also remove the    Upper Lower case    indicator and  the Page Number display from the bottom of the screen     Pressing the    CLEAR     amp  button again will display the text contained on the cur   rent page and the Page Number display on the bottom of the screen  The Text  Writer will be in VIEW mode     To edit text first choose a PAGE you want to edit as explained in the previous  section  Put the Text Writer in    EDIT    mode as explained above  the    Upper Lower  case symbol will be displayed in EDIT mode and the Page number will be dis   played to the right of the symbol  You are ready to edit text     Pressing any of the alohanumeric keys will now write to the screen  Each letter  you type is automatically saved so if power is removed you will not lose any work      88  button once        If you want to change to lower case press the    CAP       To create spaces press the    SPACE    button           If you want to jump to the next line press the    ENTER    button       Use the and cursor buttons to move the cursor around the screen  
11. just the brake to supply a small  display shows    Counter Calibrated    amount of friction  You are now ready  for surveying       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 2    Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 23       QUICK START GUIDE TEXTWRITER   DVR       FAST TEXT PAGE SELECTION    PAGE SELECTION    When the Text Writer is in VIEW mode  cursor is not shown on the screen  you can  now select pages by pressing the    1    to    9    keys  Pressing    1   will select Page 1     pressing    2    will select Page 2 and so on     This makes the recording of pages of text neater as you can now display individual  pages rather than scrolling through them     AUDIO MUTE FACILITY       When the Text Writer is in VIEW mode  cursor is not shown on the screen  you can  now switch OFF and ON the microphone that is fitted to the T804 DVR system by    pressing the    M    key     By default  when the T804 is first switched ON   the microphone is switched OFF   To enable recording of speech press the    M    key  While the    M    key is held down  the MUTE ON symbol is shown next to the Battery Level indicator  Each press of  the    M    key toggles between MUTE and AUDIO ON     This symbol indicates that the microphone is OFF    This symbol indicates that the microphone is ON       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 22       15 05 29 24 Jan 2007    text  text  text  text  text  text  text  text  text       The Textwriter starts with the Rod  Counter  Time  amp  Date and the Text  from Page 1 di
12. n to return  to the READY state or you can press the  FORMAT   button to erase further recordings           Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 16       Coun  not catin ced PS LE   The Toe starts with the Rod   Counter  Time  amp  Date and the Text  from Page 1 displayed    TEXTWRITER CONTROL KEYS    Display TIME Display DATE Cursor UP       Display Rod Counter CHANGE key Cursor DOWN    Use the keys shown here to hide or  display the Rod Counter  Time  amp   Date and the Text    The EDIT     key is used when Text  needs to be altered  this button  toggles between EDIT and VIEW  modes  The Text can be cleared from  the screen by using the CLEAR  button  this toggles between O  Text and No Text modes     When the Text  Writer is in EDIT  mode the     Upper case   Lower case     symbol appears at the bottom of the  screen next to the Page number and  the cursor will flash in the TEXT area   When the Text Writer is in the VIEW  mode the    Upper case Lower case     symbol will disappear and the cursor  will not be shown in the TEXT area   The picture above shows that the Text  Writer is in EDIT mode  If the Text  Writer was in VIEW mode the    Upper   Lower case    arrow would not be  shown        Upper Lower case Page number       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 9    USING THE TEXTWRITER EDITING       There are 9 pages that are available to display text  The pages are useful for stor   ing text that is often used such as your Companies Name and Address  To dis   play a certain pag
13. nes will accept a maximum of 2GB  If your PC runs Win98 please use  2GB cards        Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 15    DW irea hd OO NDING       Recording using the T804 DVR is very simple     Ensure that the T804 DVR is    Ready    as shown by the D symbol in the    DVR  status display    and the Status LED is GREEN     Press the    Record    button to start recording     The DVR status will show    Record  mode    momentarily followed by the     Busy    symbol  The DVR will now  check CF card space and will  momentarily display the screen   Foo  shown here  After a few seconds B NHS  the live picture will return  the o ooo  record symbol  page number and  battery level meter will dissapear  and will not be recorded unless the  Power Cell requires recharging  In  this situation a flashing    B    will  appear in the picture  The Status  LED will start FLASHING RED    Current Time and Date    11 14 Feb 05 5    If there was no space left on the CF    card the screen will show this 640x480  display momentarily  Replace the     SuperFine  CF card with a new card  If the   ow    recordings on the CF card are not  required and have been copied to  DVD  CD or onto a computer then  you can FORMAT the CF card as  described in the next section     You can record voice messages  while recording by speaking close  to the T804 monitor  There is a  microphone built into the housing  and this will record any voice 12 25 EN       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 14             TEXTWRIT
14. playback the last recording   Use the    Fast Forward    and    Fast Rewind    bt   tons if required        Whilst playing you can use the    Previous Re      PSS  cording    and    Next Recording    buttons to play   any other recordings that are already on the CF   card  Press    Stop    to stop playing       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 12       DVIR PLAYING RECORDINGS    Playing recordings on the T804 DVR is extremely simple     Ensure that the T804 DVR is    Ready    as shown by the D symbol in the    DVR  status display    and the Status LED is GREEN     Press the    Play    button  After a  short delay the T804 will play the meen EE T  last recording that was made   This is usefull for ensuring the last  recording was acceptable     The    Fast Forward    and    Fast  Rewind    buttons can be used to  quickly scan through the recording   When the end of the recording is  reached the first recording on the  CF card will be played        NEXT RECORDING    When any of the above buttons are pressed the display will show the DVR MODE   4 d 4    dd  gt  m bb 00 00 05 11 m b gt  oo 00 33 dd b m  gt b 00 00 05 44  m DP 00 00 05       PLAY PAUSE FAST FORWARD FAST REWIND  You can play the previous recording by pressing the    Previous Recording    button  You can play the next recording by pressing the    Next Recording    button  You can pause the recording by pressing the    Play    button  press again to Play    Press    STOP    to return to the live picture        Troglo
15. r remove the brush holder  it is not necessary to  remove the locking collar  just back it off sufficiently to  unlock the clamp  The locking collar need only be re     moved to change or replace brushes            y   ee    PAAA    FitShells over  Jermination    Fitting Brushes    Remove the locking collar from the camera skid and fit  eight brushes of suitable length as shown  If using in  75mm pipe  do not fit any brushes    Re fit locking collar  which remains fitted except when Shells  changing brushes             mh emt tH HHI             Fitting brush holders    Remove the camera from the Termination  Loosen  the locking collar on a brush skid  fit a pair of shells  over the termination as shown here and then push  the brush skid over the shells  Tighten the locking  collar  Replace the camera on the Termination and  loosen the collar on the second brush skid  Push the  brush skid over the camera and tighten the locking  collar  You are ready to use the skid set     Locking collar    Push skid over camera  Tighten locking collar    a ill  4  UMMA  UA    To remove the brush skids  loosen both collars  pull  the skid from the camera  remove the camera and  then pull off the rear brush skid        Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 4       ADDENDUM   S OFT WARE VERSION 2 0    NEW FEATURES FOR SW VERSION 2    T804 systems with Software Version 2 0 and later have additional features that  simplify the Rod Counter Units selection and DVR recording  These new features  are expl
16. splayed       Wait for the Status LED to show that  the DVR is ready       Fit CF card as shown and replace the  cover    gemi pomi pmi eei oed eet et ee  Yr   past a pst a pt   paon a pash pe   ft ft a  FEFEEEEFF     OO OCA WN    TEXTWRITER CONTROL KEYS    Display TIME Display DATE       Display Rod Counter    Use the keys shown here to hide or  display the Rod Counter  Time  amp     EN INA       SS nen  L  gt     Remove the CD card cover by pulling  the lanyard upwards and then away  from the unit          STOP    OOOO  NO YES    DYR          When you are ready  press the RE   CORD key to start recording  When  finished press STOP       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 3    T800 CAMERA AND SKID SET       The T800 camera needs no setting up or adjustments before the start of a survey  all  functions are fully automatic  The self uprighting is always active and the Focus pre set  to give the best image in pipes of all sizes  The only occasional maintenance required is  to keep the front window and LED window clear from debris as this will affect the picture  quality     The T800 Brush Skid set can be provided with your  T804 system as an option  Where the skid assembly is  used in a 3    pipe no brushes are required  Provided in  the set are brushes suitable for 4    and 6    pipes  Your  distributor can provide additional brushes    The brush holders are retained by means of an ex   panding clamp controlled by the locking collar that also  retains the brushes        To fit o
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18. the coiler allows rod to be removed  smoothly but does not allow the coiler to  free wheel  Layering the rod neatly on  the coiler increases the accuracy and is  always good practice     Measurements will not be accurate if  the calibration routine is performed  when the camera termination is not  next to the Rod Guide  This does not  have to be critically accurate  a leeway  of a few inches is acceptable        Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 8    DVR SETTING TIME AND DATE    The Time and Date are automatically updated and in normal use should not need  changing  the clock calendar system is aware of Leap Years and will adjust the  date accordingly  However  some Countries employ Daylight Saving  in which case  the Time will need to be changed and as the T804 is shipped worldwide  the date  may need changing as well  The DVR clock is used to    Time Stamp    the recordings  so that it is a simple case of matching recordings with the time and date that the  survey was made     Ensure that the T804 DVR is    Ready    as shown by the m symbol in the    DVR status  display    and the Status LED is GREEN        To set the Time and Date press the    Set  Time    button  The screen will show the display    as pictured here        02   01 2007    19   00            SESE     ee        i    The MONTHS display will now be highlighted  in yellow  use the buttons to increase or de   crease the month s value     zz CF      Once the MONTHS are correct    press the button  this locks the I
19. the use of Jet Washers is strictly prohibited as the  pressure can exceed acceptable limits  Keeping the Rod clean as it is returned to the  coiler is the preferable method of keeping the T804 in good condition     After each week   s operation ensure that the Rod Guide is clear of debris  clean if nec   essary using warm water and a paintbrush to get into the inaccessible parts  Wipe  down the enclosures with warm water and a mild detergent using a cloth  Perform  cleaning operations with camera and accessories connected     MAINTAINANCE    T800 CAMERA    It is best practice to leave the camera and skids fitted to the 1804  system  If you need to remove the camera ensure that the Termi   nation is clean before removal  When replacing the camera en   sure that the threads are clean and that the    O    rings are well lu   bricated with Silicone Grease     The Lens Window is the only user replaceable part on the T800  camera  although the surface is extremely hard it may become  scratched over a period of time and this will affect the picture  quality  The replacement requires the purchase of a Lens Win   dow Kit which includes the Quartz window and the sealing    O     ring  Before attempting the replacement ensure that the camera  is perfectly clean and there is no debris in the window aperture     Use long nosed pliers or a pre fabricated tool to unscrew the  locking ring  use a double sided adhesive pad and a cotton bud  to adhere to the windows front surface and pull the 
20. ur computer    Many Laptop computers are supplied with a CF card slot  In this situation the CF  card can be simply copied to a new folder on your machine  The card is usually  seen as a removable drive and will contain a number of folders  The Video Files  are contained in the folder     Drive  MP_ROOT TV    where    Drive  is the letter alb   cated to the CF card by your computer  The Video Files all have the extension       MP4     the other files in the folder with the extension     THM    do not need to be cop   ied and are used by the T804 DVR only to track the Video Files     If your PC or Laptop does not have a CF card slot then the use of a Card  Reader is recommended  This will be seen as an additional drive     Full details of how to play  store and move files can be found on the    Downloads    page at     http   www troglotech com    Please contact your Distributor for advice in your area       Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 18          CONTROL UNIT DISPLAY    CHINES       The LCD on the Control Unit can be Brightness  Contrast  Colour  Hue and  adjusted using the    Menu    and    Select    Sharpness can be adjusted to suit the  buttons conditions     SIDE OPERATION    pemaos      ogists ch itd 18040601    Disconnect both cables  remove Con   trol Unit from frame                  ae     O             ey 230 OOGO      OOR      OOOO       22000000000     Lay the T804 on its side  fit Keyboard Connect Keyboard lead and Link Ca     and then Control unit above the 
21. window from  the aperture  Remove the inner    O    ring with tweezers  do not  touch the lens  Fit the new    O    ring in the same position ensuring  that the lens is not contaminated with grease  Ensure both sur   faces of the window is clean and push into position  Refit the lock   ing collar     REPAIRS SERVICING       The T804 has no user serviceable parts  Please refer to your Distributor for repairs  and service        Troglotech T804 User Manual Page 19    DVIR PLAYI NG VIDEO ON A COMPUTER       The video files created by the T804 are in MPEG4 format  For both Windows and  Mac users the best video player to use is    Quick Time Player    by Apple  This player    supports the modern MPEG4 files without the need to download any extra Codec   s     The Quick Time Player for Windows can be downloaded for free from   http   www  apple com quicktime win html    All Mac computers are delivered with the Quick Time Player already installed  If  you need to update your Mac computer go to     http   www  apple com quicktime    Windows Vista does not support the Apple Quick Time Player correctly  There are  many ways to play MPEG4 files on Windows Vista  initially  download our universal  MPEG4 player from here     http   www troglotech products com software MP4 MP4 zip    There are also other options for playing MPEG4 files in Windows Media Player  the  details can be found here     http   www  afterdawn com guides archive how_to_play_mp4_files cfm  Moving the video files to yo
    
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