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1. easier than expanding our minds Proposed Response REJECT Response Status C CI 54 SC Table 54 7 P31 L18 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp Comment Type E Comment Status A TR23 Test points TP2 TP3 should be TP1 TP4 SuggestedRemedy Change TP2 TP3 to TP1 TP4 Proposed Response ACCEPT IN PRINCIPLE Response Status C Table item is being removed from the response to comment 484 against D4 0 Page 6 of 6 CI 54 SC Table 54 72. CI 54 SC 7 3 2 P25 L34 62 Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A E14 Need a space between number and unit SuggestedRemedy Add the spaces several occasions throughout the clause Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT See comment 14 amp 27 CI 54 SC 7 3 2 P25 L35 Dove Daniel HP ProCurve Networki Comment Type E Comment Status A E27 For consistency we should change all instances of 2 0GHz to 2000 MHz Right now the document uses both indiscriminately SuggestedRemedy Other instances found P27 L3 L20 P31 L3 L20 28 P32 L4 Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT Page 2 of 6 CI 54 SC 7 3 2 P802 3ak Draft 4 1 Comments CI 54 SC 7 3 4 P26 L8 3 d Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A E53 This made me stop and re read it The Signal lt p gt Signal lt n gt DC common mode voltage SuggestedRemedy Might be better to say The DC common mode voltage Signal lt p gt Signal lt n gt 2 Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT IN PRINCIPLE Will change The Signal lt p gt Signal lt n gt DC common mode voltage shall be between to The common mode voltage of SLi lt p gt and SLi lt n gt shall be between CI 54 SC 7 3 5 P27 L23 Dove Daniel HP ProCurve Networki Comment Type E Comment Status A E28 No need for two decimal points on Y axis of table SuggestedRemedy Set number to zero decimal points on all tables Also don t use expon
3. Comment Type E Comment Status A E38 ELFar End cross talk is used whereas every where else ELFEXT is used SuggestedRemedy Change ELFar End cross talk to ELFEXT Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C CI 54 SC 12 4 5 P44 L34 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp Comment Type E Comment Status A E39 MDELFar End cross talk is used whereas every where else MDELFEXT is used SuggestedRemedy Change MDELFar End cross talk to MDELFEXT Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 7 1 P23 L16 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E11 Remove Clause from reference to a subclause SuggestedRemedy Scan document for Clause and ensure that reference is not a subclause If reference i a subclause strike the word Clause Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C TYPE TR technical required T technical E editorial COMMENT STATUS D dispatched A accepted R rejected SORT ORDER Clause Page Line Subclause RESPONSE STATUS O open W written C closed U unsatisfied Z withdrawn CI 54 SC 7 1 P24 L1 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status R E10 Decrease font size in Figure 54 2 to 10pt SuggestedRemedy As per comment Proposed Response Response Status C REJECT All text is either 9 or 10pt CI 54 SC 7 3 2 P25 L34 Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A E51 extraneous dash after 3 SuggestedRemedy Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT
4. Delete sentence starting with This includes i Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C CI 54 SC 8 4 1 P34 L6 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp Comment Type E Comment Status A T32 The last sentence in this line incorrectly states attenuation This Sentence is not needed SuggestedRemedy Delete sentence starting with This includes u Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C CI 54 SC 8 4 2 P34 L25 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp Comment Type E Comment Status A T32 The last sentence in this line incorrectly states attenuation This Sentence is not needed SuggestedRemedy Delete sentence starting with This includes u Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C CI 54 SC 8 5 1 P36 L8 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp Comment Type E Comment Status A T32 The last sentence in this line incorrectly states attenuation This Sentence is not needed SuggestedRemedy Delete sentence starting with This includes ww Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C TYPE TR technical required T technical E editorial COMMENT STATUS D dispatched A accepted R rejected SORT ORDER Clause Page Line Subclause RESPONSE STATUS O open W written C closed U unsatisfied Z withdrawn CI 54 SC 8 5 2 P36 L27 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp Comment Type E Comment Status A T32 The last sentence in this line incorrectly states attenuation This Sentence is not needed SuggestedRemedy Delete
5. P802 3ak Draft 4 1 Comments CI 01 SC 3 P3 L6 Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A TR23 The connector reference IEC 61076 3 113 has now showed up on the IEC website Here s its title Connectors for electronic equipment Part 3 113 Screened serial multi conductor cable to board connectors suitable for 10 Gbit sec data rates Target dates CD 2004 02 FDIS 2004 12 SuggestedRemedy Add title to reference Note the target dates are they timely enough or do you want to refer additionally to the SFF document in the interim maybe as an informative reference Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT See comment 23 CI 45 SC 2 1 10 P17 L17 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E8 Remove capitalization SuggestedRemedy Change all references to 10G PMA PMD extended ability register change Register 1 11 to 1 11 in heading Also remove Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT IN PRINCIPLE Capitalization removed Register 1 11 kept to remain consistant with the rest of Clause 45 CI 45 SC 2 1 8 P16 L40 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E7 What is a multi lane PMD SuggestedRemedy Change to read multiple lane PMDs Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT TYPE TR technical required T technical E editorial COMMENT STATUS D dispatched A accepted R rejected SORT ORDER Clause Page Line Subclause RESPONSE STATUS O open W writ
6. T CI 54 SC 9 4 6 P41 L35 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E20 Missing period at end of paragraph SuggestedRemedy As per comment Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC Figure 54 4 P26 L16 Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A E54 Inconsistent capitalisation of p and n here and in caption to Fig 54 11 SuggestedRemedy Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT TYPE TR technical required T technical E editorial COMMENT STATUS D dispatched A accepted R rejected SORT ORDER Clause Page Line Subclause RESPONSE STATUS O open W written C closed U unsatisfied Z withdrawn CI 54 SC Figure 54 6 P28 L25 Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A E28 Numbers on axes are hard to read SuggestedRemedy Make them bigger removing the second and third decimal places Proposed Response ACCEPT IN PRINCIPLE Response Status C See comment 28 CI 54 SC Figures 54 5 to 54 10 P L Bradshaw Peter BitBlitz Communicatio Comment Type E Comment Status R E64 Many Figures still have Howard s nice grey box surrounding them In particular this is true of Figures 54 5 54 6 54 7 54 8 54 9 amp 54 10 This is inconsistent with similar figures in other 802 3 documents e g Figures 47 4 47 5 47 6 52 4 52 8 amp 52 15 Although consistency may be the hobgoblin of small minds that may be all that are available SuggestedRemedy Remove the grey boxes perhaps
7. entials where not necessary on table axes Figures this applies to Figure 54 5 Y axis Figure 54 6 Y axis and X axis Figure 54 7 Unnecessary E 0 on Y axis Figure 54 8 Unnecessary E 0 on Y axis Figure 54 9 Unnecessary E 0 on Y axis Figure 54 10 Unnecessary E 0 on Y axis Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 7 3 5 P27 L4 C Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A E55 shall be meet SuggestedRemedy shall meet Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT TYPE TP technical required T technical E editorial COMMENT STATUS D dispatched A accepted RESPONSE STATUS O open W written C closed U unsatisfied Z withdrawn CI 54 SC 7 3 6 P28 L4 Dove Daniel HP ProCurve Networki Comment Type E Comment Status R E29 We use the term pre emphasis everywhere but here for the transmitter Inconsistent use o the term equalization SuggestedRemedy Change equalization to pre emphasis Proposed Response Response Status C REJECT Pre emphasis is not used anywhere in D4 1 CI 54 SC 7 3 6 P28 L5 56 el Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status R E56 Not all points are inflection points SuggestedRemedy vertices or just points Proposed Response Response Status C REJECT All of the points are inflection points except the end points which delimit the line CI 54 SC 7 3 6 P28 L6 Bradshaw Peter BitBlitz Communicatio Comment Type E Comment Status A E63 Voltage and time coordinates for inf
8. lection points on Figure 54 6 are given in Figure 54 5 Coordinates are given in Table 54 5 not Figure 54 5 SuggestedRemedy Replace word Figure by Table Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT R rejected SORT ORDER Clause Page Line Subclause Page 3 of 6 CI 54 SC 7 3 6 P802 3ak Draft 4 1 Comments CI 54 SC 7 3 7 P29 L28 Dove Daniel HP ProCurve Networki Comment Type E Comment Status A E30 Missing space SuggestedRemedy Change 0 66normalized levels to 0 66 normalized levels Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 7 4 1 P30 L26 Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A E58 10 12 SuggestedRemedy Use superscript delete the Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 7 7 P26 L5 Md Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E13 Logic values should be in lowercase SuggestedRemedy Change ONE to one and ZERO to zero Scan document for all other occurrences and change Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT These are not logic values but rather variable values This same section in Clause 53 uses all capitals for ONE TYPE TR technical required T technical E editorial COMMENT STATUS D dispatched A accepted R rejected SORT ORDER Clause Page Line Subclause RESPONSE STATUS O open W written C closed U unsatisfied Z withdrawn CI 54 SC 7 8 P26 L29 Booth Brad Intel 1 Comment Type E Comment Status R E12 N
9. otes in 54 7 8 and 54 7 9 about disruptive to a network do not seem to add any value to specification Although the information is correct the management entity controlling these bits doesn t care about disrupting the network There is a high probability that the controlling of these bits is due to diagnostics being performed on the network and therefore disruption of the network is desired This is a specification not a user s manual SuggestedRemedy Remove notes Proposed Response REJECT Response Status C This was the resolution to Technical comment 381 against D4 0 CI 54 SC 8 P27 L16 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E15 Heading should use lowercase SuggestedRemedy Change to read Connector pin assignments Apply similar change to 54 9 3 2 Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C CI 54 SC 8 1 P32 L4 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp i Comment Type E Comment Status A E27 Inconsistant units 2GHz used whereas 2000MHz is more commonly used through out the document SuggestedRemedy Change 2GHz to 2000MHz Check throughout the whole document and use 2000MHz Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C See comment 27 Page 4 of 6 CI 54 SC 8 1 P802 3ak Draft 4 1 Comments CI 54 SC 8 3 P33 L18 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp Comment Type E Comment Status A T32 The last sentence in this line incorrectly states attenuation This Sentence is not needed SuggestedRemedy
10. sentence starting with This includes Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 9 3 10 P39 L32 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E30 Need to insert a space between 0 66 and normalized SuggestedRemedy As per comment Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 9 3 6 P32 L6 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E14 Require a space between value and unit of measurement SuggestedRemedy Insert space between 150 and mVpp Scan document for other occurrences and fi Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 9 3 8 P33 L10 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E16 Equation format needs to be fixed SuggestedRemedy It appears that the font is too large 12 pt instead of 10 pt that the equation needs to be shrink wrapped and the equation numbering format should include a long dash instead of a period Also apply to other equations Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C Page 5 of 6 CI 54 SC 9 3 8 P802 3ak Draft 4 1 Comments CI 54 SC 9 3 9 P35 L8 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E17 The word Annex is not required SuggestedRemedy Delete Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 9 4 P40 L3 Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E19 Need a space between Table and 54 12 SuggestedRemedy As per comment Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEP
11. ten C closed U unsatisfied Z withdrawn CI 54 SC 0 P L Dawe Piers Agilent Comment Type E Comment Status A E48 Some of my TRs against d4 0 have been closed 399 401 413 416 417 427 433 432 442 SuggestedRemedy No action needed Thank you Proposed Response Response Status C ACCEPT CI 54 SC 10 5 1 P51 L1 21 el Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status R E21 Paragraph starts at top of page when should be on previous page SuggestedRemedy Check that the keep with next is only on for the appropriate portions of the paragraph or remove the page break Proposed Response REJECT Response Status C This is fine in D4 1 but looks different in the D4 0 to D4 1 compare dacument CI 54 SC 11 P53 L27 22 el Booth Brad Intel Comment Type E Comment Status A E22 Shorten paragraph to a more usable form SuggestedRemedy Change to read The 10GBASE CX4 PMD as per 54 9 is coupled to the cable assembly as per 54 10 by the MDI MDI has already been defined Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C Page 1 of 6 CI 54 SC 11 P802 3ak Draft 4 1 Comments CI 54 SC 12 4 5 P44 L30 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp Comment Type E Comment Status A E37 MDNear End Cross Talk is used whereas every where else MDNEXT is used SuggestedRemedy Change MDNear End Cross Talk to MDNEXT Proposed Response ACCEPT Response Status C CI 54 SC 12 4 5 P44 L32 Baumer Howard Broadcom Corp
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