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1.     Discharge pipes must be left open to atmosphere  not blocking the tundish     The responsibility for supplying and fitting the discharge pipe from the tundish is that of the certified  installer  In general  installation practice should be in accordance with the approved document G3 of  schedule 1 of the building regulations 1991  VIZ     3 9    d 1    d 2    The discharge pipe from the tundish should terminate in a safe place where there is no risk to  persons in the vicinity of the discharge  be of metal and     Be at least one pipe size larger than the nominal outlet size of the safety device unless its total  equivalent hydraulic resistance exceeds that of a straight pipe 9m long i e discharge pipes between  9m and 18m equivalent resistance length should be at least larger than the nominal outlet size of  the safety device  between 18m and 27m at least 3 sizes larger  and so on  Bends must taken into  account in calculating the flow resistance  See Diagram and table on page 6     Have a vertical section of pipe at least 300mm long  below the tundish before any elbows or bends  in the pipework     Be installed with a continuous fall     Have discharges visible at both the tundish and the final point of discharge but where this is not possible or  practically difficult there should be clear visibility at one or other of these locations  Examples of acceptance  discharge arrangements are     Ideally below a fixed grating and above the water seal in a trapped gully     Do
2.  DATE   ADDRESS   TEL NO        REGISTRATION DETAILS  Where applicable for unvented systems etc              REG No  ID SERIAL No  etc   APPLIANCE DETAILS  MANUFACTURER MODEL  CAPACITY LITRES SERIAL NO   GENERAL INSTALLATION  HAS A CHECK BEEN DONE FOR JOINT TIGHTNESS AND LEAKS  YES NO       HAS A CHECK BEEN DONE FOR ELECTRICAL SAFETY  YES NO             benchmark       is supported by  WATERHEATER  MANUFACTURERS  ASSOCIATION    Storage Waterheater  Installation   Commissioning and  Service Record  Log Book     To be retained by customer      INSTALLER DETAILS  APPLIANCE DETAILS  COMMISSIONING RECORDS  SERVICE INTERVAL RECORD    IMPORTANT  FAILURE TO INSTALL  amp  COMMISSION THIS APPLIANCE TO THE  MANUFACTURER S INSTRUCTIONS MAY INVALIDATE THE WARRANTY  This note does not affect your statutory rights     
3.  WHAT IS THE AVAILABLE BOILER FLOW TEMPERATURE  C  WHAT IS THE BOILER RETURN TEMPERATURE WHEN CYLINDER STORE IS SATISFIED         BOILER PRIMARY SETTINGS   IS THE VENT PIPE CORRECTLY INSTALLED  YES NO   WHAT IS THE STATIC HEAD IN METRES  METRES  WHAT IS THE CYLINDER THERMOSTAT SETTING  1 C   ALL MAINS PRESSURE SYSTEMS   WHAT IS INCOMING COLD WATER PRESSURE  BAR  HAS STRAINER  IF FITTED  BEEN CLEANED OF INSTALLATION DEBRIS  YES NO  HAS A WATER TREATMENT DEVICE BEEN FITTED  YES NO                   IF YES TO ABOVE THEN WHAT TYPE     UNVENTED SYSTEMS ONLY                                                                            ARE T amp P AND EXPANSION VALVES FITTED AND DISCHARGE TESTED  YES NO   IS PRIMARY ENERGY CUT OUT FITTED  NORMALLY 2 PORT VALVE   YES NO  WHAT IS OPERATING PRESSURE  PRV SETTINGS     BAR  WHERE IS PRV SITUATED    HAS STRAINER  IF FITTED  BEEN CLEANED OF INSTALLATION DEBRIS  YES NO  HAS EXPANSION VESSEL OR INTERNAL AIR GAP BEEN CHECKED  YES NO  WHAT IS THE CYLINDER THERMOSTAT SETTING    C  HAS THE SYSTEM BEEN EXPLAINED TO THE HOUSEHOLDER  YES              HAS THE SYSTEMS LITERATURE BEEN LEFT WITH THE HOUSEHOLDER  YES NO                   ENGINEERS SIGNATURE CUSTOMERS SIGNATURE          CUSTOMER DETAILS    NAME       ADDRESS          TEL No     INSTALLER DETAILS    NAME DATE          ADDRESS          TEL NO        REGISTRATION DETAILS  Where applicable for unvented systems etc                 REG No  ID SERIAL No  etc   COMMISSIONING ENGINEER DETAILS   NAME
4.  and opening hot tap  Open  the pressure and temperature relief valve to drain water from the top of the unit then close this valve   Leaving the hot tap open and the main supply off  pump the vessel using a schraeder valve connector  via a footpump or motorised pump to 3 0 bar  Remove pump  open mains supply and close hot tap  once water is running freely     Run a hot tap and close  If the pressure remains over 3 bar  re calibrate the Pressure Reducing Valve  and clean the strainer  replacing if necessary       Open the expansion valve cap to manually discharge water to ensure that it works  making sure that    it resets correctly       Open the pressure and temperature relief valve cap to manually discharge water to ensure that it works     making sure that it resets correctly       In both cases ensure that discharge pipework is adequate to safely carry discharged water away     If not  check for blockages etc  and clear       Check that the controls of the hot water temperature do not allow the water to get hotter than 60 c     STAINLESS INDIRECT UNIT WITH COMPONENT 1 D     3 4  Female boss for  expansion vessel       COLD MAIN IN  THROUGH E  THEN G     D IS TEED OFF  BETWEEN  G AND THE UNIT     HOT DRAW OFF TO TAPS    3 KW IMMERSION HEATER WITH MANUAL RE SET TEMPERATURE HIGH LIMIT CUT OUT   TEMPERATURE AND PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE    EXPANSION RELIEF VALVE    PRESSURE REDUCING VALVE LINE STRAINER    EXPANSION VESSEL  SUPPLIED LOOSE      NON RETURN VALVE    PRIMARY CONNECTI
5.  described in the manufacturer s instructions and in compliance with all the relevant codes of practice     SERVICE 1 DATE  ENGINEER NAME  COMPANY NAME                   SERVICE 2 DATE       ENGINEER NAME  COMPANY NAME                   TEL No  TEL No    ID SERIAL No  ID SERIAL No   COMMENTS COMMENTS  SIGNATURE SIGNATURE       SERVICE 3 DATE  ENGINEER NAME          COMPANY NAME                      SERVICE 4 DATE       ENGINEER NAME       COMPANY NAME                   TEL No  TEL No    ID SERIAL No  ID SERIAL No   COMMENTS COMMENTS  SIGNATURE SIGNATURE       SERVICE 5 DATE  ENGINEER NAME          COMPANY NAME       TEL No        ID SERIAL No        COMMENTS       SIGNATURE       SERVICE 7 DATE  ENGINEER NAME          COMPANY NAME                      SERVICE 6 DATE       ENGINEER NAME       COMPANY NAME       TEL No        ID SERIAL No        COMMENTS       SIGNATURE       SERVICE 8 DATE       ENGINEER NAME       COMPANY NAME                   TEL No  TEL No    ID SERIAL No  ID SERIAL No   COMMENTS COMMENTS  SIGNATURE SIGNATURE             WHEN ALL OF THE ABOVE SERVICE HAVE BEEN COMPLETED  PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SERVICE ENGINEER  FOR AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE INTERVAL RECORD SHEET     COMMISSIONING PROCEDURE INFORMATION                                                                      IS THE PRIMARY SEALED OR OPEN VENTED SYSTEM  Sealed Open       IF SEALED THEN WHAT IS THE SYSTEM PRESSURE  Hot Cold          IF SEALED THEN WHAT IS THE CHARGE PRESSURE OF EXPANSION VESSEL          
6.  omm       GUARANTEE    Applied Energy Products Ltd guarantees the shell of the unit for 25 years   The component parts  including the expansion vessel  are guaranteed for  2 years from date of purchase     THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT    WITHOUT IT YOUR GUARANTEE MAY BE INVALID    1  Keep proof of purchase  2  Maintain log book on unit  3  Service annually    4  Ensure that installation has been carried out correctly by appropriately approved  competent  personnel following relevant Code of Practice     5  Installation must be in an appropriate location and use is restricted to potable water     Please note that the extended guarantee is not transferable  and rests with the original  householder     The above does not affect your statutory rights     Every effort has been made to ensure that this information is correct  Regulations may change and  installers must adopt best current practice     We reserve the right to alter or improve components or specification without notice   We will endeavour to update web site details as changes happen     TROUBLESHOOTING   NO HOT WATER   INDIRECT    START       I  BOILER ON          SWITCH ON               15  PROGRAMMER  SWITCHED TO  HOT WATER         SET PROGRANME                   15  MID POSITION  VALVE IN CORRECT  POSITION    NE SET  CHECK    WIRING  amp  PLUMBING  IS CORRECT              5  CONTROL  TEMPERATURE SET  AT 55  C 60  C         RE SET        gi           IS ALL  WIRING TO THE  CONTROLS  0     REPLACE  RE SET 
7. ONS    IMMERSION THERMOSTAT WITH HIGH LIMIT CUT OUT   GAUGE     umer                           gt        STAINLESS DIRECT UNIT WITH COMPONENT 1 0         3 4  Female boss for    expansion vessel    COLD MAIN IN  THROUGH E  THEN G     D IS TEED OFF  BETWEEN  G AND THE UNIT     HOT DRAW OFF TO TAPS    3 KW IMMERSION HEATER WITH MANUAL RE SET TEMPERATURE HIGH LIMIT CUT OUT   TEMPERATURE AND PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE    EXPANSION RELIEF VALVE    PRESSURE REDUCING VALVE LINE STRAINER     EXPANSION VESSEL  SUPPLIED LOOSE    NON RETURN VALVE   GUAGE          nn m O    w  gt         SIZING GUIDE  amp  SPECIFICATIONS    CAPACITY NOM WEIGHT NOM WEIGHT INDIRECT APPLICATION DIRECT APPLICATION   LITRES  INDIRECT  FULL    DIRECT  FULL  HEAT UP TIME RE HEAT TIME HEAT UP TIME RE HEAT TIME  TWIN BATH SINGLE BATH   3 BED   gt             me                       2 BATH  amp  2 SHOWERS TWIN BATH    20   1470 x 560 300kg         33mins   24mins 108mins   63mins   3 BATH  amp  2 SHOWERS TWIN BATH  amp  SHOWER    20   1770960 360kg 319kg 36mins   26mins 155mins   100mins    Heat up times through 50  C  Re heat is 70  of volume        COMPONENT SPECIFICATION   amp  REFERENCE NUMBERS          DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATION PART NUMBER             amm            _    EXPANSION VESSEL UP TO 170 LITRE MODELS 3 0 BAR CHARGE  12 LITRE CAPACITY 97 392063       EXPANSION VESSEL FOR 200  amp  250 LITRE MODELS 3 0 BAR CHARGE  18 LITRE CAPACITY 97 392064       TUNDISH 1   2    X 22MM 97 392065               mmm       
8. OTES   TYPICAL DISCHARGE PIPE ARRANGEMENT    SAFETY DEVICE   e g  TEMPERATURE RELIEF VALVE  METAL DISCHARGE PIPE  pn  FROM TEMPERATURE RELIE  TO TUNDISH             500mm MAXIMUM      TUNDISH    300mm  MINIMUM    METAL DISCHARGE PIPE  D2   FROM TUNDISH   WITH CONTINUOUS FALL     SEE 3 9d i iv  amp  TABLE 1     DISCHARGE BELOW  FIXED GRATING     3 9d GIVES ALTERNATIVE POINTS  OF DISCHARGE      0           FIXED GRATING           TRAPPED GULLY    SIZING OF D2 COPPER DISCHARGE PIPE FOR COMMON TEMPERATURE RELIEF VALVE OUTLET SIZES    VALVE MINIMUM SIZE OF MINIMUM SIZE OF MAXIMUMIRESISTANCE RESISTANCE    OUTLET DISCHARGE PIPE   DISCHARGE PIPE  D2  RT ee E DUO  SIZE  02                NO ELBOWS OR BENDS  OR BEND    up to 9m  up to 18m    up to 27m    up to 9m  up to 18m    up to 27m    up to 9m    up to 18m    up to 27m       WORKED EXAMPLE   The example below is for a 61 2 temperature relief valve with a discharge pipe  D2  having 4 No   elbows and length of 7m from the tundish to the point of discharge     From Table 1    Maximum resistance allowed for a straight length of 22mm copper discharge pipe  D2  from a  G1 2 temperature relief valve is 9 0m       Subtract the resistance for 4 No  22mm elbows at 0 8m each   3 2m    Therefore the maximum permitted length equates to 5 8m      5 8m is less than the actual length of 7m therefore calculate the next largest size       Maximum resistance allowed for a straight length of 28mm pipe  D2  from a 61 2 temperature  relief valve equate
9. REDRING  LWSS STAINLESS STEEL       UNVENTED WATER STORAGE HEATER    INSTALLATION  COMMISSIONING  MAINTENANCE    W 9   RAS 04                           THIS UNIT IS SUPPLIED BY    APPLIED ENERGY PRODUCTS LTD       TEL  08709 000430    APPLIED ENERGY PRODUCTS LTD  STAINLESS STEEL UNVENTED HOT WATER STORAGE UNITS    Please read the following carefully before installation of the product  You should be competent to install  the unvented system as defined by the regulations  Special attention must be paid to maintenance and  service     Please keep the unit packaged until you are ready to commence installation  Store the unit in a dry area   keep it vertical and ensure that all safety components are kept in the box     IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THIS UNIT IS SERVICED AND MAINTAINED ANNUALLY   THE BENCHMARK  LOG BOOK MUST BE COMPLETED AND UPDATED  FAILURE TO DO SO WILL INVALIDATE GUARANTEES     THE DIRECT  amp  INDIRECT UNITS    DIRECT INDIRECT    EXPANSION EXPANSION  VESSEL VESSEL   SUPPLIED LOOSE   SUPPLIED LOOSE     PRESSURE AND  TEMPERATURE  RELIEF VALVE         HOT DOMESTIC PRESSURE AND  WATER TEMPERATURE  RELIEF VALVE    HOT DOMESTIC  WATER    PRIMARY    INSULATION TAPPINGS    INSULATION    IMMERSION  HEATERS    DUAL  THERMOSTAT  IMMERSION  HEATER  COLD MAINS  VIA GROUPSET    COLD MAINS  VIA GROUPSET       INSTALLING THE LWSS UNIT    Choose a flat even surface  Wooden bearers are not essential as the unit sits on a ring stand  The unit  must be installed vertically     Please i
10. THERMOSTAT                 TROUBLESHOOTING   NO HOT WATER   DIRECT    START       SWITCH ON       ELEMENTS        15  CONTROL  TEMPERATURE SET RE SET  AT55  C 60  C        HAS  HIGH LIMIT  TRIPPED     REPLACE ELEMENT    CHECK WIRING  LINKS CONTINUITY  AND RE SET             TROUBLESHOOTING   POOR WATER FLOW AT HOT TAPS    START       WATER SERVICE        INCOMING MAINS  SUPPLY FLOW PRESSURE  ADEQUATE    CHECK BY  SUPPLY COMPANY  REQUIRED            CLEAN   IN LINE OR REPLACE  STRAINER  IN PRV  STRAINERS  DIRTY AS APPROPRIATE           YES SERVICE   REPLACE PRV  AS APPROPRIATE                 SYSTEM  FREE FROM  RESTRICTIONS   BLOCKAGES        CLEAR  OBSTRUCTIONS             TROUBLESHOOTING   WATER DISCHARGING INTO TUNDISH    START                15  PRESSURE  DOWNSTREAM  OF TPRV  CORRECT    NO       NO CLEAN OR  REPLACE       15  VALVE SEAL  AND SEAT CLEAN              AS  REQUIRED     amp  UNDAMAGED                15  HEATER  OPERATING AT  LESS THAN  60  C          15  EXPANSION  VESSEL CHARGE  CORRECT     NO    RECOMMISSION    EXPANSION  LEVEL              REPLACE 15 ERV TPRV  ERV TPRV DISCHARGING       RESET  TEMPERATURE          RE CALIBRATE       PRV       SERVICE INTERVAL RECORD    It is recommended that your heating system is serviced regularly and that your service engineer completes the    appropriate Service Interval Record below     SERVICE PROVIDER    Before completing the appropriate Service Interval Record below  please ensure you have carried out the service  as
11. and 24 hour programming     Y PLAN    Room Stat Cylinder Stat Mid Position Valve  RMT 230 ITD Dual Stat HS3    RDN XI     1 2 3 HE               N  L    Junction Box       FP75 or CP15 Programmer Basic Boiler    COMMISSIONING INSTRUCTIONS    BEFORE FILLING  CHECK EXPANSION VESSEL CHARGE IS AT 3 0 BAR       Open all terminal fittings on the domestic hot water circuit  Open the main supply to the unit     Flush through until all air is expelled     Close hot outlets and open all cold outlets connected to the tee after the pressure control valve     Flush through until all air is expelled       The system is now full of water  Check for any leaks on pipework or joints or components such    as immersion heaters etc  It is the responsibility of the installer to check all fittings  including  those that are fitted to the unit       Switch on power and heat up via immersion heater  and or boiler       Your system should be ready for use     MAINTENANCE    Maintain annually and carry out the following checks     Clearly up date the Benchmark Log Book at each service    GUARANTEES ARE VOID WITHOUT SERVICE RECORDS     1     Check incoming pressure is controlled at 3 bar maximum  The gauge reading clearly demonstrates this   Expansion vessels must be maintained annually  The charge should be checked with an accurate  pressure gauge and maintained at 3 0 bar  If the reading is less than 3 0 bar to recharge the vessel  ensure that the unit is decommissioned by turning off the water supply
12. ct gap separation  Appropriate  wiring for the electrical load must be used  The twin immersion heaters supplied with direct units can  be switched to utilise low tariff electricity supply  Do not switch on until the unit is full of water     Immersion heaters are supplied fitted in the body of the unit  Always ensure that the joints are  watertight on commissioning  The thread is non standard  Order replacements using reference number  on page 14  Do not fit an immersion heater without a high limit thermostat  Immersion heaters fitted  are designed for domestic use only  either utilising low tariff electricity and occasional boost or for  switched periods during the day     Immersion heaters must meet BS EN 60730 2 1   Units must be earth bonded     The fuse rating for 6kw loading is 25 amps  for the 3kw  indirect  model the fuse rating is 13 amps     ALWAYS CONSULT THE REGULATIONS            INDIRECT INSTALLATIONS  The indirect pattern products are supplied with dual thermostats with  sensing probes and with a motorised two port valve     The thermostat has to be wired in order to control the water temperature  in the system and  if the high limit is tripped  to operate the two port  valve in such a way as to route primary water back to the boiler and isolate  the cylinder  see diagram          NB  By pass must be fitted BOILER  in accordance with boiler CIRCS  manufacturer s instructions 22mm    VALVE    WIRING INSTALLATION    The wiring diagram for Danfoss systems is give
13. n as guidance    For modified Danfoss Randall Y  S and W plan systems when used in conjunction with  unvented water storage systems    Programmers recommended are  FP715  7 5 and 2 day programming and the   CP15 5  2 and 24 hour programming     W PLAN    Diverting Valve Room Stat Cylinder Stat  HS3D RMT 230 ITD Dual Stat    p High Mn    ITD  Dual Stat    10      0000      45 41 4L AL  JL                               Power                L    Dab                        Junction Box       HP22       FP75 or CP15 Basic Boiler 2 Port Valve  Programmer       WIRING INSTALLATION    The wiring diagram for Danfoss systems is given as guidance    For modified Danfoss Randall Y  S and W plan systems when used in conjunction with  unvented water storage systems    Programmers recommended are  FP715  7 5 and 2 day programming and the   CP15 5  2 and 24 hour programming     S PLAN    Room Stat    Zone Valve  Htg  Zone Valve  DHW   HP22 RMT 230 HP22    2                  ITD  Dual Stat  Control          BEI    00000000       1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8    9   10    2E JE KIK 2E 2E 7L 22     Junction Box  2 3     2 3    1 44 00             i P  Htg  Dh ump  Bud    FP75 or CP15 Programmer Basic Boiler                     WIRING INSTALLATION    The wiring diagram for Danfoss systems is given as guidance    For modified Danfoss Randall Y  S and W plan systems when used in conjunction with  unvented water storage systems    Programmers recommended are  FP715  7 5 and 2 day programming and the   CP15 5  2 
14. nstall in an area that will be accessible in the future  When first fixing take into account that  the connections and controls will be front facing to facilitate access     Check that the floor will support the unit when it is full of water  See page 14 for weights     COLD FEED   Minimum mains pipework of 25mm MDPE or 22mm copper is advised  If 15mm copper or Te lead is  the only mains feed then the decision to install rests with the installer or specifier of the product  Flow  rates will be compromised  even at appropriate pressures  ensure that you have at least 18 litres per  minute at the bath tap  Maximum inlet pressure is 12 bar     If multiple bath filling or showering is required  mains feed may need to be 32mm MDPE or 28mm copper     The unit operates at 3 bar and pressures from 2 bar upwards are suitable  Lower pressure will result in  a fall in flow rate  A flow rate of 20 litres per minute is a minimum requirement for single bath  applications and must rise proportionately for greater demands     Please also take into account any fitting that could restrict flow such as water meters  softeners etc     Connection to the unit   Use 22mm compression for all connections  Use gunmetal  DZR or brass fittings   noting local water conditions     COLD MAINS COMPONENT LAYOUT    T EXPANSION VESSEL  COLD TAPS Q  OPTIONAL           PRESSURE REDUCING  VALVE FILTER    2 DRAIN POINT        No valve is to be fitted between the expansion valve and the cylinder  except a drain poi
15. nt     It is recommended that a stop cock is fitted to the above to facilitate servicing  Install before the  pressure reducing valve  Always fit a drain tap in an appropriate position for drain down as low as  possible     DON T USE MONOBLOC MIXERS IF THE COLD SERVICE IS UNEQUALISED AS IT WILL BACK   PRESSURISE  THE UNIT AND RESULT IN DISCHARGE     EXPANSION  VALVE        DISCHARGE  PRESSURE AND  TEMPERATURE    RELIEF VALVE COLD FEED    Both the pressure and temperature 22mm  relief valve fitted to the unit and  the expansion valve supplied loose  must be arranged to comply with  G3 regulations and each discharge  into an open  visible  tundish    A 300mm vertical drop of 22mm TUNDISH  diameter pipe must be fitted to the  tundish     NB  THE TUNDISH AND DRAIN  MUST BE POSITIONED AWAY FROM  ELECTRICAL DEVICES     Y    22mm  ALWAYS CONSULT THE REGULATIONS   IMPORTANT  Discharge arrangements are the responsibility of the installer and reference to current  building regulations should always be made  Applied Energy Products Ltd  offers the foregoing as  guidelines only     The main purpose of discharge pipework is to allow full flow from relief valves to be accumulated and  safely routed to a point outside the building at low level     GUIDANCE NOTES    TUNDISH DISCHARGE  The unit is supplied with two mechanical safety devices  An expansion relief valve  supplied loose  and  a temperature pressure relief valve fitted to the unit  both discharging into a tundish  supplied loose  
16. s to 18m       Subtract the resistance for 4 No  28mm elbows at 1 0m each   4 0m  e Therefore the maximum permitted length equates to 14m       As the actual length is 7m  a 28mm  D2  copper pipe will be satisfactory    INSTALLATION    HOT WATER OUTLETS  Dynamic pressure always drops across a system when more than one outlet is opened     The unit has a working pressure of 3 bar     Good system design should take this into consideration  amp  pipe sizing should be in line with current  good practice     In hard water areas a reduced operating temperature will help to prevent premature scaling     EXPANSION VESSEL  The vessel  supplied loose  screws onto the top of the unit  It is sized appropriately and includes  some allowance for pipework  Check the charge is at 3 0 bar before commissioning     The expansion vessel can also be fitted remotely between the unit and the check valve on the cold  supply or by adaptor to the top female fitting on the cylinder    PRIMARY CIRCUITS   The maximum primary pressure is 3 5 bar    The boiler must have a mechanical high limit thermostat    Solid fuel boilers cannot be used   If the primary circuit is sealed  an additional expansion vessel must be fitted     If a secondary circuit is connected an additional expansion vessel may be required     ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS    Immersion heaters are rated 3kw at 240v  2 76kw at 230v   incolloy elements  with a thermal energy cut   out  and must be connected via double pole switches with a 3mm conta
17. wnward discharges at a low level  i e  up to 100mm above external surfaces such as car parks  hard  standings  grassed areas etc  are acceptable providing that where children may play or otherwise come  into contact with discharges  a wire cage or similar guard is positioned to prevent contact  whilst  maintaining visibility     Continued       GUIDANCE NOTES    d 3 Discharges at high level  e g  in to metal hopper and metal down pipe with the end of the discharge  pipe clearly visible  tundish visible or not  or onto a roof capable of withstanding high temperature  discharges of water and 3m from any plastic guttering systems that would collect such discharges   tundish visible      d 4 Where a single pipe serves number of discharges  such as in a block of flats  the number served should  be limited to not more than 6 systems so that any installation can be traced reasonably easily  The  single common discharge pipe should be at least one pipe size larger than the largest individual  discharge pipe to be connected  If unvented hot water storage systems are installed where discharges  from safety devices may not be apparent i e  in dwellings occupied by blind  infirm or disabled people   consideration should be given to the installation of an electronically operated device to warn when  discharge takes place     NOTE  The discharge will consist of scalding water and steam  Asphalt  roofing felt and non metallic  rainwater goods may be damaged by such discharges     GUIDANCE N
    
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