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1. CZECH REPUBLIC For sale Indian Power Plus 1916 with sidecar bike is restored to a high standard excellent throughout and runs as good as it looks Fully equipped with Corbin Klaxon Prestolite and gas lamps Expensive Serious engieries only please Indian V twin model TT 1913 two speed project for sale EUR 15 000 Corbin set and carbide lamps included Pictures by email Jan Vadset CZ Email indian 29 hotmail com For sale Indian Scout 750 1929 fully renovated Runs good Pictures and videos at http tomo czweb org EUR 15 000 OBO Tomas CZ Email info tomo czweb org FINLAND For sale 2 NOS front wheels clincher rims with spoolhubs from teens They are supposedly Indian must say supposedly as I m not 100 sure They DO look like Indian and have traces of red paint gold yellow striping Surface rust but solid No bearings other one has one broken spoke the other is complete Size approx 18 smaller than 25 Chief Price is negotiable Contact Jack ja korpijaakko kolumbus fi INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 23 Autumn Winter 2006 EURO SHOP Cont FRANCE For sale One pair of 741B fenders with braces Patrick Rodriguez 33 0 1 30 85 07 76 pvh rodriguez Afree fir For sale 1940 1200 military Chief 12V new tires and battery 800 km since complete restoration civilianized 20 000 Euros pictures available by email Michel Alunno Email mikalun free fr Wanted For a 640B Sport Scout2. swopmect boo sals souvenirs Autumn Winter 2006 International Indian Rallies 2003 2004 2005 2003 Denmark AJ FN A A AS PSI A A A PSI A A PSI PSI PSI A PSI PSI A A PSI A A PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI A A PSI A A A A PSI PSI PSI PSI A A PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PI 2004 England PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI A A PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PSI PI PI 2005 Germany INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 14 Autumn Winter 2006 L P INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Autumn Winter 2006 Welcome to the 2 Austrian Indian Tour For the second time the Austrian Indian Riders are inviting you to Austria This time we will ride throu the Austrian Tuscany the famous wine region in southern Styria We will see the southern styrian wineroad riding thru shadespending woods up to the wineflats At the end of the first day we will arrive at the Schilcherland Hof to stay for one night At the second day we will ride the Sausaler wineroad getting near to the Riegersburg a castle in eastern Styria Via Straden we will return to southern Styria At the last evening we will take part at a winetasting and enjoy traditional food in the wine cellar of the beautiful Gamlitz Castle Schedule of the Tour Saturday August 25th 07 Individual arriving Sunday
3. The next rider feared the worst upon seeing this and stopped in the middle of the road in the turn Next up was a big 47 Chief amp sidecar Well there just wasn t enough room for everything in this turn The sidecar passenger s leg was actually resting up on amp outside of the tub and contacted the passenger on the stopped Good Sameritan Things were pretty balled up by the time we pulled through but it all ended up many betters than it looked At the site of the memorial which was actually Henstromes birthplace a half cave affair which actually wasn t too uncommon in his day was a shrouded monolith of granite with a bronze relief of a Henstrome engine on it It was awesome A family descendant accepted the clubs well meaning presentation and a picnic ensued with many photos taking in front of this Historic National Monument don t see the US doing anything to recognise any motorcyclists Soon the rain came down and we were all drowned rats The kind of rain that gets everything inside your wallet wet even when you re International drinking traditions are usually explicitly demonstrated on the final nights of these rallies Being Americans we were well armed with the makings for Manhattans It didn t take many for me to get Mads from Denmark to let me be the very first person other than him of course to ride his gorgeous creation the Alma 4 Built around an air cooled 4 cyl NSU he artfully recast many of the engine parts to look lik
4. 367 23 so that members can see the cost of the return trip fairs are INDIAN FILE ISSUE 0 Page 12 Autumn Winter 2006 Pnternattonav Galion Motoggdles Rallye 2007 Friday July 27 2007 to Sunday 29 2007 MN Ao wie 45300 Zuckes 28 29 Juillet 2007 We ara pleased fo wagome you a few military arirass in the hoart of a region of linkoa lorasts and vales with m neh hisinrie post Vite hope yeu will have a good tima Piaaze mote the water pi the fort iz not drinkable Site opena Friday 27 July at 15 00 Site closes Monday 30 July at 10 00 Please check our websile al www indlanclub org for undates INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 13 Contacts Francais Olivier Marchand Indian Club France 2 Ormes Pithiviers le Vieil t l 33 0 2 38 30 35 29 Francais English Fred Dufr ne 33 0 8 71 76 70 58 Francais Deutsch 33 0 3 88 50 05 45 Francais English Netherlands Rolande Van Gysel indianrolly hotmail com Indian Friends of Belgium Klaprozenlaan 16 08400 Oostende 32 59 70 53 63 Vercing torix 28 29 Juillet 2007 Cost BO payable at tho entrance under 16 years fron amp Breakfasts served on Saturday and Sunday HH Supper on Saturday evening e 3 liem of mineral water provided par petnodi Aaby free campsites showers inlets and eiectncity available ve music games
5. an interesting time would like to say how sorry am that Kiwi Stacked Up his bike and also got wounded am as guilty as the rest of us for not taking some time to have a riders meeting to establish some guide lines and etiquette for a potentially dangerous ride Of the 6 of us Bob Clift does some off road but do an enormous amount of it For that reason tried to take the rear and help out crash victims In the end when it all unravelled had to rely on past experiences have been on the receiving end of rescues before and it is a very desperate feeling to be many miles from nowhere in the cold dark wondering if anybody will ever find you And at the same time not having enough water food warmth etc After about 60 miles of rough road and about 16 more to go a bad decision was made to go down the wrong road pulled up last in line and the decision to go was already made saw Bob head out and as Gary was leaving he said We re going this way had a feeling this was the wrong way so followed behind to discuss our progress at the next stop Well the next stop was finding Kiwi out of gas and gave him 1 2 gallon of my Norton s 6 1 2 gallons Matt Kiwi and then proceeded on and found Kiwi and Gary turning back They met a lone camper who said we were on the wrong road and it came out to the north many many miles away A decision was made to take another 1 2 gallon of my gas on Gary s modern and f
6. rare jobs displayed an orig paint 16 Model K Featherweight a 17 Lightweight twin not available in the states some Hendees and some cool Power Pluses Outside most of the bikes were in 2 long rows that were quite impressive There we only a couple of 4ours 2 gorgeous up side downs and a 42 Two Tangerine 53s were side by side in the line up along with many early scouts some 741s a few Braves lots of skirted Chiefs and a dispatch tow owned by a Dane in his 80 s He had an attachment on his handlebars to accept a every hour on the hour to make sure everyone was still awake England France Italy Croatia Finland Germany Holland America Australia and few others were well represented in this global mix of Indian enthusiast The ride out was through beautiful wooded countryside that enveloped plenty of steep twisting narrow ribbons of asphalt laid in the thick of the forests A joint fuel stop with some 150 bikes saw us devour the supply of Pear flavoured popsicles Little did we know at the time but Pears would be our theme flavour for the rest of the trip Soon we were all spread out again racing toward our common destination of the Ocscar Henstrome memorial site Of course we saw bikes coming at us from the opposite direction but we knew that if we went faster we wouldn t get as lost A grisly seen met us around one sharp bend however A 101 pulled over to take a leak in the bushes While off in the bush his bike fell over
7. 63A 7 1160 Vienna Austria Tel 0043 676 613 46 26 email florian faltin chello at Web htip www austrian indian riders at TourO7 tour2007eng htm INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 16 Autumn Winter 2006 Death Valley Road Run Adventure Report l il start off by apologising for my bad grammar but you ll see why later on in the story death Valley is always an exciting road run as it s one of the neatest places on earth Where else can you be 200 ft below sea level and in a few hours be many thousand feet above sea level and in pure beauty Max Bubeck knows the western United States the best have out of everyone have ever met and especially death valley and he has shared his experiences with many At a glance it s appears as a baron place but in actuality it is a magnificent exciting and challenging place It was true and the weather was ideal and after the run to Scotty s castle about 60 miles away we decided to have an impromptu drag race rather than just a ride back to base camp We headed about 25 miles north just across the Nevada border on a dry lakebed for those that were up to it It was a rush and it was balls out racing and nobody held anything back 101 s Chiefs Harley s and Nortons lost out to Jim Moshers Norton by about a bike length but the bobber was the last flat head standing Great racing 6 of us 4 Indians a Norton and a new BMW 650 dual purpose Decided we needed a challenge far bigger than Titus canyon from
8. August 26th 07 8 00am Meetingpoint at parkinglot of Gamlitz a Sam Start of the 2 Austrian Indian Tour 2007 leaving the parkinglot FH Distanceotis Souler Stvrian wineroad Ebiswald St Lorenzen Soboth mountianroad Lavam nd MEN Deutschlandsberg Hebalpe Pack Edelschrott Ligist Schilcher wineroad St Stefan ob Stainz Stainz ee _ Monday August 27th 07 8 00am Good morning Breakfast Stainz Preding St Andra in Sausal Sausaler wineroad Kitzeck Leibnitz Kirchbach ay iis Kirchberg Riegersburg Fehring Bad Gleichenberg Straden Mureck Ehrenhausen southern Styrian wineroad Gamlitz Tuesday August 28th O7 August Tuesday August 28th O7 07 Breakfast Time to say goodbye Distance of 2nd 2 Overnights as discribed above hitp www viamichelin de http www viamichelin de on Sunday dinner and breakfast at the Schilcherland Hof on Monday winetasting and traditional food at Gamlitz castle breakfast at Eckberger Hof beverages not included except winetasting Tour Sevicecar per person 129 Euro 3 Overnights as discribed above on Saturday arrivingday dinner and breakfast at Eckberger Hof on Sunday dinner and breakfast at the Schilcherland Hof on Monday winetasting and traditional food at Gamlitz castle breakfast at Eckberger Hof beverages not included except winetasting Tour Sevicecar per person 179 Euro Booking and information Florian Faltin Lienfeldergasse
9. Frame front and rear front fork handlebars Jo Venancio Tel 33 325 354 593 Email vero venancio wanadoo fr Wanted For Indian 340 CAV looking for any documentation pictures manuals descriptions old articles books pictures from movie archives illustrated user manual etc Looking too for CAV registration numbers Martin M Bogaert email Martino1 scarlet be Wanted For Indian CAV military tand sad tand sad handle and hardware buy or swap Martin M Bogaert email 0 GERMANY For sale Very carefully completely restored civilianized Indian Scout 741b 1941 frame black tinware only primered so you can still choose your favorate color special custom made stainless steel headers and muffler Heinz Krieger D Tel 449 7173 8886 Email Heinz Krieger t online de Wanted Tanks for Indian 741B 1941 looking for a set already painted black with Indian Headdress tank should be rustfree and sealed Susanne Gehrmann D Tel 49 2324 6654 For For sale For 40up Chief Battery case polished stainless steel with original bottom plate red complete rear wheel new spokes with brake sprocket heavy duty seat post springs original rear springs with complete rear wheel mounting casting very good air filter with Indianscript AVON tires 5 00x16 new EUR 75 each transmission case new transmission complete ready to bolt on new trans top ready to bolt on like new clutch set new generator Bosch 6V new fits in or
10. S VALENTINE WOOD KENT 1926 SCOUT WILLIAM BROAD SURREY 1913 4 hp SINGLE NN INN NI N INN N N N IN ro ro N oo N PI N N N No N PI N N PO no PO N N no IN N oi N N N N N N N N N N N N N ro INN ro ro N IN N N N INN IN N N ro N IN N N N N NN ro FN r r r Indian Owners of GB Rally 8th 10th June 2007 Venue The Duke of York Pomeroy Buxton Derbyshire SK17 9QG Tel 01298 83345 Price To be confirmed There is a large camping field for our exclusive use with toilet facilities The pub is going to do a barbeque for us on the Saturday evening Breakfast will also be available at the pub as will meals throughout the rally Frank Grassi has organised some live music and there will be a ride out through some stunning Peak District countryside plus the usual games etc Local B amp B details to be advised shortly For more information or booking contact John Chatterton on indianjohn fsmail net INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 21 Autumn Winter 2006 Obituary Steve Stephens Steve Stephen s untimely death will certainly leave a great gap in the vintage motor cycle world which I m sure will be felt from Surrey to Cornwall and even on to Ireland and Holland Steve was so well known at various meetings Horsepower Pioneer Irish week plus a host of local runs and rallies campaigning his Inter Norton or his veteran Indian Steve was a very early member of the Indian Owners Club of Great Britain In those days very recognisable with h
11. The bike was done and hurt real bad and definitely was not ride able ended up landing on my right shoulder and tweaking it badly took a quick inventory of my body parts and my right shoulder felt like something was wrong decided to lay down and regroup Rocky doubled back since he no longer saw my head light and he didn t expect to see what he saw As he approached made sure waved with my good arm so he didn t have any bad thoughts about me being dead or unconscious was still able to laugh and joke about it as being just another experience on an Indian as we ve both had a few together We left the bike there and gently eased over to his 45 chief and rode bitch on the rear fender We still had about 8 Miles of bad road to go over and about 20 Miles of good main highway black top and after what had gone through even the rough road felt like a pretty smooth ride but it took a few breaks to get to Panamount springs Panamount springs is a one stop shop gas restaurant bar motel etc and has a magnificent view during the day Obviously at 4am no one was still up but we found a room that was vacant and helped myself to a bed just to be able to get comfortable which was what was after Rocky had made good friends with the owners the day earlier so we thought that amounted to something for gate crashing the place About 6 am they came in and made me very welcome and served up breakfast and hot chocolate It was the 1st food we ha
12. afe Modified with low bars solo seat and Dunstall Rear Sets not the perfect Off Road Combo but very capable at speed in the mountains There was a moon out that night but it kept going behind the clouds Following Matt s dim lights didn t help me see the road at all so decided to go ahead of him at a faster clip with just dim moonlight was able to perfectly see the white stripes and the yellow centre stripe so was able to maintain 70 MPH all the way back Matt did the same If that moon had not been out we couldn t have even walked out of there INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 19 Autumn Winter 2006 Death Valley Road Run Adventure Report Cont On our way back we saw one lone headlamp and figured it might be Gary We stopped and were shocked to find out it was Bob He told us how he made it out without running out of gas even was amazed and that the road was very long very rough and very cold Now we were asking Where was Gary Well Matt and were on our way to find him We hurried back with my Van and found Kiwi and Rocky where Kiwi or Rocky had again run out of gas We gassed them up at just after mid night and proceeded to find Gary and Bob Unfortunately soon after that Kiwi Endo ed Matt and had another 80 miles of terrible untraveled off road to do in my 76 Dodge Van that is lowered with a Hopped Up 440 Hot Rod motor another vehicle not suited for Off Road Of coarse we ignored all the signs
13. d in 24 hours and thought where was that hot chocolate at 12 30 when we were freezing in the hole After getting back to civilisation and having x rays it showed had shoulder damage but no broken bones hence my bad grammar The quacks had a good laugh at my grubby and tired appearance torn jeans and home made sling and my story They donated me a new late model sling saying this model is fully adjustable which I m to wear for 8 weeks must have taken a good tumble as 24 hrs later in a lot more places and all over have a saying that have used for many years about riding Indians turn a ride into an adventure well we sure did this time no regrets just all good memories and great people It s the people that make the difference and we re all laughing about our experiences Thanks to Rocky Halter Bob Clift Matt Blake Jim Mosher and Gary Smalz for another great ride and being there when needed I m now planning for an off road special edition Death Valley model Indian Some minimal requirements are hydraulic forks swing arm rear suspension and a custom made 5 gal tank plan to have some pictures of our adventure up on our wesite www kiwimotorcycles com within the next few days Mike Kiwi Tomas Kiwi Indian MotoCycle Company www Kiwilndian com ph 951 788 0048 INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 18 Autumn Winter 2006 Death Valley Road Run Adventure Report Cont Hi Jim Mosher here too was on the Death Valley Enduro and had
14. e I think better than the originals We re talking the entire oil pan and the tank here It was like driving a 4our on steroids She just wanted to rip but didn t get the chance to take her out on the road just around the Rally complex Maybe next time Sunday saw the sad trickle of most of the players saying their goodbyes and heading on down the road We absorbed young Halvor on his 84 OD trannied CV carbed 44 Chief from Norway for our return trip to Jorgens to re charge and get set for out Norway invasion Halvor was to be our guide Fred Johansen INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 8 Autumn Winter 2006 The Belgium Indian Rally Thursday 24 Aug 2006 To Monday 28 Aug 2006 Thursday 24th Aug 2006 The ride from North Shields to the ferry terminal at Hull docks was approximately 140 miles for Philip amp myself Philip on my red 741b and myself on my black 741b combination The ride from Woodlinkin near Nottingham to the ferry terminal at Hull docks was approximately 90 miles for Jess Tim Joe amp baby Jess on his 1947 Chief Tim on a 1948 Chief combination with the baby in the sidecar and Joe on her red 741b bobber We all met at docks at about 16 15pm and checked in at the ferry terminal for Zeebrugge It is an overnight passage and the return trip costs approximately 125 each for three motorcycles and three people sharing a four berth cabin Ferry Details P amp O Ferries Hull 0870 5202020 The crossing was very smo
15. e VERY FAST too With everything ready we started off for the 5 7 hour journey south to the Rally site which was world renown for it s Rock Concerts in Europe was the 1st to get lost just trying to get fuel Distances are far and civilisation is scarce in these parts That s my excuse anyway We finally gathered as a group and re started on our mad scramble Things went OK until Jorgen s hot rod 102 started eating up batteries Seems it was on the total loss system generators are heavy ya know and they would only last about 45 minutes With now spare battery we would rotate on out of a running bike all the way down to the rally site Batteries were a bad subject amongst the group by the time we arrived Arrive we did though and man were there a lot of bikes Cool bikes ones that l ve never scene before at any of the other Indian Rallys INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 7 Autumn Winter 2006 Red Freds Trip to the Swedish International Rally Cont There was a lot of greeting amp re greeting from old friends and soon to become new friends We never let language be a problem although almost everyone speaks perfect English We unloaded for Jorgens vending spot and then cheated by checking in a hotel nearby The Hotel was party central though amongst the entire Indian group also though It was just like being there but sleeping in a bed instead of a bag Most of the early bikes were assembled in the sheltered bar area There were few super
16. eryone know So here we have a prosperous nation hell bent on having fun with cars bikes amp hot rods l ve never seen so many 50 amp 60 Cadillac convertibles in my life They were everywhere Lots of Rockabilly stuff too Anyway Swedish Indian guru Jurgen Sandberg has been making treks to the states over the last few years shopping for goodies and making contacts for his flourishing Indian Shop in central Sweden got to know him through my buddy Geoff Ringle of Old Iron Designs and the rest is history Jurgen picked us up in Stockholm and showed us the touristy bits of the very neat amp tidy city We then blasted the 3 1 2 hours north to his village where he has a massive barn like complex for all his Indian wares His show room was still under construction but we definitely got the idea There was a beehive of activity there already Two Germans had made the trip up to the Arctic Circle and were on their return leg home via the Swedish Rally They were tightening up some maintenance issues on the enduro tired 741 and a fully street ized 47 Chief These guys had just come back from an ODYSEE Also in attendance was fellow German Jergen Hecker on his trusty 101 with guests Jim Parker from Australia riding his son Donald in Jergens 39 Chief with S C This lot took the scenic route venturing East from their Southern German starting point entering Poland and attacking Sweden via Finland They also put on a few thousand miles and were u
17. ge ae L gol ram s a zd s ut us Ne res e mda ase ae al mal v Se gle Da aii INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Autumn Winter 2006 Hu TIT aj X De Herberg van Oom La mt en Tonle Klaasje T 2 Moni 1 m 1 Ij f auni 2 32 4 rs nar 9 s a S Qus UO yu 4 Tua HL s The m TI Tas at Tony s rally May 2005 Indian Place 1 8531 XH Lemmer Holland Fax amp Phone 0031 0 514 563 244 Buy Sell Trade Engine Overhaul Bike Restoration The One and the Only INDIAN MOTORCYCLE museum in Europe Normally opened on Saturday from 1 till 5 o clock but always phone in advance INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 2 Autumn Winter 2006 FRONT COVER Page 2 Page 3 Page 4 Page 5 Page 6 Pages 7 to 8 Pages 9 to 12 Page 13 Page 14 amp 15 Page 16 Pages 17 to 20 Page 21 Page 22 Pages 21 to 25 Page 26 Page 27 Rear cover IN N INN N IN NN NN N EEE N N N N NIN NN EE OE EG Fill in Picture INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 CONTENTS Nice Ex Army Chief Mister Tony Indian Leenes Contents Editor s Letter Letter from the new President Clubs Stand at Stafford April 2006 Red Fred s Trip to the Int Indian Rally Hultsfred Sweden The Belgium Indian Rally International Indian Rally France 2007 International Indian Rallies Pictures Austrian Indian Tour Death Valley Road R
18. h other out is what the club is all about be it advise or parting with those bits you ve hoarded and you now realise you ll never need If you can swap parts better still and even more in the club spirit so anyone got a late 4 motor to swap for my junior scout frame Nice to see the quick flash of the war bonnet adorning the tank of a Wall of Death Scout on the BBC between programme bollix probably the excellent Ken Fox wall see it on about walls read the Alan Ford wall book recently Buy it on about balls read the Burt Munro book too buy that too If you lot behave your daft selves might tell you about the time had a go at the wall well might am going to sign off on a sad note by now many of you will have heard of the passing away of Steve Stephen s former president stalwart ambassador of the club and all round great guy he died at home after illness Andy Donald who was able to attend Steve s funeral told me it was a large turnout and a fitting send off for such a popular bloke a group of vintage bikes accompanied the procession to the chapel in rural Bodmin had planned to attend with my brother Steve who flew over from Ireland especially to drive me down but sadly my current bout of spinal fun prevented us travelling the 300 odd miles on the day was gutted but couldn t get in the car ne mind sit in it for 5 6 hours A donation was made by the club to the Macmillan nurses On behalf of the club w
19. h out plus who new when our next drink was going to be the last meal we had was 7am that morning and its now about 9 pm We got as much as we could with the 2 1 2 ft hose which we thought would be enough but it got us about another 1hr up the road before we ran dry again Now we were in the higher elevation and cooler climate too and with some wind it was getting pretty cold and we found a hole on the side of the road so rocky and i nestled into it INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 17 Autumn Winter 2006 Death Valley Road Run Adventure Report Cont We didn t even think about snakes and scorpions until way later on but we were so worn out that we didn t give a hoot anyway The wind pretty much blew over us but it was still cold and getting colder and rocky decided to throw dirt on himself to try and get warmer with no luck We were starting to think Jim and matt might not have made it out and we both had all sorts of things going through our minds Then at about 1am Jim and Matt showed up in Jims van with gas so we jumped in the back and warmed up Jim and matt continued on the long way to sweep the road to make sure Bob and Gary made it out OK and we continued on We got about 1 mile down the road 2 am by this time and a coyote ran out in front of me It looked like was going to hit my front wheel next thing know I m heading towards a big rock and then worse into a ditch which endoed the bobber and threw me off the bike like a pole vault
20. iginal clamp generator 12 V new with electronic regulator fits in original clamp for Big Chief 1928 Complete Motor Primary Transmission for restoration with many additional parts will send list upon request oplitdorf ignition new Autolite generator DU5H long new Dieter Bensching D Tel 49 170 921 5708 Email DBENSCHING muRata de Offer Repair und new manufacture of leather seats and saddle bags Alexander Meier Niespodziany D Tel 49 176 23201075 For sale Generator drive with belt for 741 and Sport Scout new leather seat black new make offer Manfred Weinberg D Tel 449 4456 1434 evenings 6 p m For sale Various used parts e g 1926 Prince motor with magneto without carburetor EUR 950 set Chief tanks 40 s EUR 250 set Chief cylinder heads EUR 240 generator case EUR 30 set engine cases Scout 741b EUR 180 set engine mounting plates 741b EUR 30 set tank emblems new chrome 42 46 EUR 25 same 47 53 EUR 25 Uwe 006 D Tel 49 6031 61716 Fax 61246 Email eb de For sale Chum me seat with large passenger rail on HD pan incl mounting bracket top notch new upholstery with 2 5mm thick leather EUR 450 Offer Upholstery of leather seats Peter Fuehrmann D Tel 49 2151 734078 Email INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 24 Autumn Winter 2006 EURO SHOP Cont GERMANY Cont For sale 1912 1915 Indian Single flywheels with pistons 1912 1915 Indian Single BOSCH ZE 1 magneto 1916 1916 Indian Twin trans
21. ipping out the carb and cleaning out the water it was off on the ride INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 10 Autumn Winter 2006 The Belgium Indian Rally Cont Saturday 26 Aug 2006 Ride out pictures INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 11 Autumn Winter 2006 The Belgium Indian Rally Cont Sunday 27 Aug 2006 Night time As usual Elves put in an appearance and sung us some of his hits The food was BBQ hams with potatoes and salad It all went off very well Sunday Aug 27 2006 AM After our breakfast and a last look round it was off to the ferry Small problem with Joe s 741b the distributor came loose but we soon had it fixed and back in running order again Back to the docks in Zeebrugge for 17 00pm and check in at the ferry terminal for Hull Monday Aug 28 2006 AM Arrive at Hull Docks approximately 9 00am and set off for the ride back home AS AS AS FN AS AS AS AS AS AS AS AS ASD ASD AS AS ASD ASD AS AS ASD AS ASD AS AD FD ASD AS AS ASD FD AS FD AS ASD AS AS AS ASD AS AS AD ASD ASD AS AS AD AS AS AD FD ASD ASD AS AS P amp O Ferries Hull 0870 5202020 Name Surname Ferry COST Type DOB MAKE REG John Wright Thurs 24th Aug 122 41 4 berth 13 10 1948 Indian 741b GVU694 MM Nd d oaan 7e faveat Sunday 27 Aug sharing Jess Bamford Thurs 24th Aug 122 41 4 berth 28 10 1950 Indian Chief JVS676 27 Aug sharing
22. is long beard and his stove pipe hat he 70 became the very enthusiastic President of the club a position he held for some years One of Steve s earlier interests was trial riding and in later years he became an observer at the Talmag where a section bears his name Steve s interest in early American cars and motor cycles led him on many occasions to the U S A where he usually visited his good friend Bud Ekins After giving up his Surrey home about six years ago he moved to Cornwall there to make new friends and carry on his interests with his usual enthusiasm Steve was never heard to say I wish I had he had done it nobody could pack more into life Our condolences go out to his wife Sheila and his daughters Claire and Emma Ray Chriss INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 22 Autumn Winter 2006 EURO SHOP UNITED KINGDOM For Sale Indian Brave 1956 24 000 miles One Lady Owner from new Nice bike good condition Price 1650 Contact Mike DeBidaph 0044 1883 382 495 or email clubsecretary indianriders co uk For Sale Basketcase 741 90 complete Also vast collection of 741 spares Call Mike on 01883 382495 or Alan on 01483 283198 evenings For Sale For Indian Braves New centre stands stronger and slightly longer then the origional stand these lift the wheels off the floor 30 each plus p amp p state if for model s or r Wiring looms made to order Origional colours used comes with solid state rectifier and
23. l had dirt bikes or thought normally and each of us was just as determined as the other to do it Most of the riding was in 1st and 2 gear which chews up a ton more gas was told the following day that the 4 wheel drive clubs take 2 days to do this track while we figured 4 5 hrs hours or so should do Gas ended up being an issue about 3 4 the way into it as we took a wrong turn that cost us precious gas to double back which was all up hill You have to visualise this it s out in the middle of the earth and it s not called Death Valley for no reason There are no road signs and it s very easy to mess up and then you have no idea where you are at since you have nothing to reference yourself to We split up into 3 groups of 2 when we ran out of gas figuring we ll use the buddy safety method Matt Blake and Jim Mosher had plenty of gas oversize tanks help and so does British fuel economy and had the best chance of getting out and bringing back gas So they went ahead as it was now nightfall and our plan was to be out by now eating a big juicy steak at Panamount springs Gary Smalz and Bob Clift went ahead on a different route but that s a different story in itself After rocky and ran out of gas we figured we were done but after a few hours one lonely vehicle cam by and had gas and beer but no siphon though We ended up pulling the windshield washer hose off and started siphoning into an old water bottle we saved The beer was used to flush my mout
24. mission with clutch 1916 1919 Indian Powerplus flywheels 1917 1919 Indian DIXIE magneto 1920 Indian Powerplus engine cases very good 1920 1927 Indian Splitdorf generator 1920 1927 Indian bracket for Splitdorf generator orig 1920 1927 Indian generator drive for Splitdorf clutch wheel orig 1928 1930 Indian Splitdorf magneto for 4 not complete 1928 1930 Indian Scout front wheel without brake 1928 1930 Indian cylinder heads 750cc 1931 1932 Indian headlamp shell 1922 1927 Henderson Zenith carburetor trade possible need HD parts 1915 29 Excelsior Super X Wanted Parts hints contacts pictures of Reading Standard 1919 1922 urgent motor parts footboards chainguard also would appreciate loan for reproduction Speedl D Tel 49 171 8715511 BO photos upon request Email indiansaleO6 freenet de NETHERLANDS For Sale Side car type MARIK Indian House PRAGUE left hand for Indian Four 1928 1934 restored in parts Euro 3 000 INDIAN CHIEFS 1946 1948 restored 19 000 Indian Parts ask for list per email Prince engine 650 Carroussel Motor round 1950 complete and original 1 250 Front and rear wheel Motoplane Junior scout complete with tyres brakes Euro 850 Indian collectibles Hans van Heesch 00 31 485 452215 email brd planet nl POLAND For sale Indian Chief 1941 completely restored 1999 in full riding condition good runner EUR 22 500 Location Warsaw Poland Robert Wieckiewicz Email rwieckiewicz onet pl F
25. o sell a record amount of regalia and enrol a few new members We also walked away with some of the silverware my scout winning the award for Best Indian Tony Carabine also won the Best Vintage award for his restored 1929 101 scout which he had on show as a private entry elsewhere at the show John Chatterton Hide safe FR gh INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 6 Autumn Winter 2006 Red Freds Trip to the Swedish International Rally This years International Indian Rally was hosted by Sweden This is their second time throwing out the welcome mat had missed the 1st and wasn t about to be left out this time First a little background on the Swedish scene Seems our very own Mr Hedstrom was born in southern Sweden and most tourist brochures depict this They are proud of their hero amp rightly so Second Sweden wasn t really effected by WWII They weren t damaged amp they didn t suffer through their economy In fact when the Stukas stopped Sweden was one of the few countries poised to buy goodies Most of Europe s transportation industry was in rubble so along came American iron Yep there are tons of 46 7 amp 8 Chiefs in Sweden AND a lot of them sport left hand sidecars oweden ran by the proper UK road system with driving on the left er wrong side of the road Hence the lefty chairs Then one day around 64 or 65 they suddenly went right correct and drove on the other side of the road A radio announcement let ev
26. or Sale large stock of repro parts for early Indians 1912 1915 Mr Sylwester Sokolowski address ul Bonifraterska 13 99 400 Lowicz Poland For Sale Military luggage rack for 741 no side boards Mr Erwin Gorczyca osrodek dorsum pl For Sale Large stock of repro parts for different models Complete seats amp parts handlebars luggage racks and many more Mr Krzysztof Pedryc indian56 interia pl www oldtimerservice Qriders pl Wanted Front wheel rim for 101 Scout 1929 Mr Erwin Gorczyca srodek dorsum pl Wanted Gas tank for 101 Scout in restorable condition will buy early Indian seats or parts especially for Mesinger Cushion Suspension models Mr Krzysztof Pedryc indian56 interia pl SWEDEN For Sale Henderson 1922 with sidecar restored 100 Photos on request Leif Jostrand Sweden Phone 46 0 31 29 69 23 E mail Jostrand algonet se INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 25 Autumn Winter 2006 Email from Club Member Hi John A Couple of months back went to Kew gardens to see the Autumn displays among which was a special feature on cranberry production in the States amp was surprised to see the transportation truck in pic attached looks like a 1930 s Indian front end contacted Kew about it by email a while back asking where it had come from but didn t get any replay Cheers from Toby INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 26 Autumn Winter 2006 These pictures were sent by a pal of mine who has just
27. oth and we had a good meal and a few drinks in the bar Friday 25 Aug 2006 AM Zeebrugge The boat docked at Zeebrugge at about 8 00am local time and the weather was good After a stop for petrol we set off down the coast road to meet Peter and Anita at the small coastal village of Bray Dunes just over the border near Dunkerque in France approximately 53 miles The reason I wanted to go to Bray Dunes was to see the place were The British Expeditionary Force BEF was evacuated by the flotilla of small boats in June 1940 The Dunkerque beaches ESEH oc Rele Breskens Knokke Heist Hag Wenduine De Haan n Middelkerke urg 4 E BSE Eme skamp Koksid aie at Ve AK s of Ichtegem gos Bray Dunes m m m ipn Dort Inkerque v Fi i cia NE INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 9 Autumn Winter 2006 The Belgium Indian Rally Cont Friday 25 Aug 2006 PM Bray Dunes We arrived in Bray Dunes at about 13 00 only to find Peter Anita Robin Keith etc in the main car park just about to go for lunch After a nice lunch we set off for the last leg to the rally site Friday 25 Aug 2006 PM Arrive at Spaarpotweg 2 We booked into the cabin and all had a few beers Saturday 26 Aug 2006 Up for a nice English breakfast The ride out was a tour of the nice border country Of course it rained and Jess had a problem with water in the petrol But after str
28. ould like to send our heartfelt condolences to Steves wife Sheila his daughters and family Chris Holland also informed me that he will ride Steves beloved Norton Inter with Steves ashes strapped to the tank up the Healy pass in Ireland during the Irish National rally he will then scatter Steves ashes at the top very poignant very apt So long Steve we ll miss you mate All the best to all of you out there Calvin Underwood INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 5 Autumn Winter 2006 The International Classic Bike show Stafford April 2006 As is usual in April the club had a stand on the upper balcony at the International Classic Bike show at the Stafford County Showground Representing the club was Dave Gill Calvin Underwood Andy Donald Tony Carabine and myself We had a good variety of Indian s on display to titillate the visiting public The oldest machine was an original 1923 Scout owned by Tony Carabine This machine was exported by Indian to a company in Sweden called Winklund who apparently repainted them over the original Indian paint This particular example was in green and still in very good condition Also on display was my 1940 Sport Scout replica a 1942 741 bobber owned by Tim Maddocks Eddie Baine s 1948 Papoose the worlds slowest Indian which is a re badged Brockhouse Corgi folding paratroopers bike This took pride of place on a table at the back of the stand and last but not least Dave Gill s 1953 Chief We managed t
29. rest of the Club officials would like to wish all our members and their families a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year You can contact me at the above address or the any of the followings telephone numbers please feel free to contact me at any time Home 0191 2522840 Work 0191 2592849 Fax 0191 2582737 24 hours Email jdwright netcomuk co uk Good riding to all you Indian enthusiasts Regards Joww John D Wright INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 4 Autumn Winter 2006 LETTER FROM THE NEW PRESIDENT Howdy Yorl For the dubious benefit of the bloke who s just joined allow me to introduce myself Calvin T Underwood s the name proprietor of Phoenix Restoration antique motorcycle restorers specialising not surprisingly Indians have been a club member since the early days and my claim to fame is being the only one sad enough to have attended ALL the club rallies no never missed one sod Well that s me now what about this wonderful club preside over Not far off twenty years old already comprising a right mixed bag of enthusiasts the rich and not so rich pop stars to porn stars all united under the Indian banner You meet the nicest people on an Indian apologies to Honda have met some of my closest friends including the Missus through the Indian club scene for some of us acquiring that first Indian and joining the club has proved to be quite a life changing event Besides the camaraderie to me helping eac
30. rs British and Japanese Scramblers and of coarse some dirt prepped Indians and H D s This can happen on the Sunday or Monday before the Official Road Run There WILL be more discussion on this subject later See Ya next year Jim Mosher INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 20 Autumn Winter 2006 CLUB ADVERTISEMENTS FOR SALE For sale FOR INDIAN BRAVES NEW CENTRE STANDS STRONGER AND SLIGHTLY LONGER THEN THE ORIGIONAL STAND THESE LIFT THE WHEELS OFF THE FLOOR 30 EACH PLUS P amp P STATE IF FOR MODEL S OR R WIRING LOOMS MADE TO ORDER ORIGIONAL COLOURS USED COMES WITH SOLID STATE RECTIFIER AND WIRING DIAGRAM RIDGID FRAME AND S1 MODELS 45 PLUS P amp P S2 MODELS 50 PLUS P amp P NEW POINTS COVERS ALL MODELS 8 EACH PLUS P amp P PISTON RINGS PLUS 30 8 PER SET PLUS P amp P BRAVE ENGINES REBUILT WITH SEALED NEEDLE ROLLER CONVERSION TO DRIVE SIDE BEARING ESTIMATES GIVEN JOHN CHATTERTON TEL 01663 747106 6 00 9 00 PM indianjohn fsmail net WANTED Wanted WANTED FOR 1926 SCOUT 1927 ONWARDS FRONT WHEEL WITH BRAKE HUB SPEEDO VALENTINE WOOD TEL 01227 711563 WANTED FOR 741B MILITARY CRASH BARS HORN AND SADDLE BAGS JOHN ANDERSON TEL 01847 811309 WANTED FOR 1914 5hp FRONT AND REAR HUBS JOHN SLOPER TEL 01727 872692 NNN NN IN INN NN N IN IN IN IN N N IN N N N N N N N N N INN IN IN N N IN IN N N N INN IN INN N IN N N NN NN N N NN N INN N N N INN N IN N IN IN N IN N N N N N ro ro ro ro ro P PI NEW MEMBER
31. sing the Rally as their returning point Some of the local Indian guys popped in to contribute to the Indian madness at Jorgens Jorgen keeps a very large amp enthusiastic tribe going in Northern Europe Sweden is made of vast open distances with lots of wooded lakes Perfect for high speed touring and most of the bikes proved it 80 84 was the norm along with OD transmissions large sprockets and modern carbs Everyone with a CV carb was constantly tinkering with them though Our own bike graciously lent by Jorgen was an 84 47 Chief with a CV carb It was balanced at 6496 and was perhaps the smoothest Chief I ve ever ridden Plenty of power but gentlemanly smooth In fact LOTS of power Geoff borrowed Jorgen s 36 Chief fitting as Geoff had previously lent out his own 36 to Jorgen for a Road Run in South Dakota earlier It was quite a coincidence that Jorgen s 36 was painted in the exact paint scheme and colours as Australian Jim Parker s personal 36 back down under Maroon amp cream Jorgen mounted his freshly finished well almost 29 102 102 Well that s what he calls his modified 101 It sported a Standard ocout engine with Chief flywheels and Sport Scout upper end This package fits in the frame without any modifications He did widen the tank to suit the larger engine though and finished the package off in high gloss black with dull nickel hardware Throw in a few Vargas pinup girls here amp there and it was quite the packag
32. uel efficient BMW to Bob because he was certain to run out of gas and the 1 2 gallon might get him back to us Later remembered that he is running the CV carb which gets great mileage and that he would run out of gas far away and the 1 2 gallon wouldn t get him back to the group At this time Matt Blake and had decided to try to get back to Panamint Springs for gas and go all the way back to Furnace Creek to get my Van equipped with 40 gallons of gas food water heat tools etc Meanwhile Kiwi had run out of gas again and Rocky was on fumes They were going to have to sit and wait a while I was now on Reserve When Matt and came across the 4 wheeler we begged them to find a way to get some gas into Kiwi and Rockies tanks to get them out Matt and still needed to get my van back and to look for Bob and Gary We had another 100 late night miles to go 30 miles Off Road and 70 miles of mountain hi way Matt s original Moto Lamp was as bright as a candle and my Typical Lucas system lasted about 3 miles after turned it on could only barely see the dirt rock road if stayed right with Matt and this is at about 20 MPH on the trail After we hit pavement and gassed up at Panamint Springs we had the lady there call in that we were coming and we would collect up the others as we found them We didn t know yet about Kiwi s tumble Time was of the essence so we had to get back quick As some of you know my 75 Norton 850 is C
33. un Adventure Report Club Advertisements Obituary Euroshop Email from Club member Pictures from New Zealand Club officials contact details N NN N NN EEE NN INN N INN NN INN NN NN NN NN INN NN INN NN INN N INN INN INN INN INN INN INN INN NN INN N INN NN INN N IN N N NININ N NN Page 3 Autumn Winter 2006 LETTER FROM THE EDITOR 2 Keswick Drive Cullercoats North Shields Tyne and Wear NE30 3EW 10 12 2006 Dear Members Well the autumn has gone and winter is hear the riding season is over and its time to get in the shed and prepare your Indian for next years trips am a great believer in the school of thought that says that a motorcycle that is not ridden is a waste As you may have gathered that like to and go to as many rallies as a can and meet lots of Indian riders from all over England and Europe Now if you think that our club has about 170 members The Riders club has about 120 members That is about 300 members in the UK So why did only 29 club members turn up at the summer rally in Whitley Bay this year If any members are thinking about attending any Indian rallies ether in the UK or in Europe and require any information please do not hesitate to contact me and will try and help Remember most Indian rallies welcome any makes of motorcycle in fact all you need is an interest in Indians Come in your van bring your unfinished projects and people are only too pleased to help Anyway enough ranting and the
34. visited Invercargill in New Zealand Home of Bert Munro Ca oM E FERING r OFFE INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 27 Autumn Winter 2006 MOTOCYCLE CLUB OF GREAT BRITAIN FOUNDER SAM LEE PRESIDENT CALVIN UNDERWOOD 77 TO 79 PHOENIX EDITOR JOHN WRIGHT STREET 2 KESWICK DRIVE SUTTON IN ASHFIELD CULLERCOATS NOTTS NORTH SHIELDS NG17 4HL TYNE amp WEAR 01623 406349 NE30 3EW 6 21 0 0191 2522840 idwright netcomuk co uk ARCHIVE SPARE PARTS DAVE GILL JOHN WRIGHT FERN VILLAS 2 KESWICK DRIVE 12 HOWARD STREET CULLERCOATS SUTTON IN ASHFIELD NORTH SHIELDS NOTTS TYNE amp WEAR NG17 4DD NE30 3EW von gill ntlworld com 0191 2522840 idwright netcomuk co uk MEMBERSHIP JOHN CHATTERTON VICE PRESIDENT 183 BUXTON ROAD FRANK GRASSI NEWTOWN 17 COOPER AVENUE SOUTH DISLEY LIVERPOOL STOCKPORT MERSEYSIDE CHESHIRE L19 3PW SK12 2RA 0151 427 2366 viads tiscali co uk 01663 747106 AFTER 6 P M AND BEFORE 9 00PM indianjohn Ofsmail net INDIAN FILE ISSUE 70 Page 28 REGALIA DAVE GILL FERN VILLAS 12 HOWARD STREET SUTTON IN ASHFIELD NOTTS NG17 4DD von gill ntlworld com TREASURER JAN QUIGLEY 183 BUXTON ROAD NEWTOWN DISLEY STOCKPORT CHESHIRE SK12 2RA 01663 47106 indianjohn Ofsmail net WEBSITE ANITA DRAY 8 CHURCH LANE MOLASH NR CANTERBURY KENT CT4 8HB 01233 740021 boudicca indianriders co uk Autumn Winter 2006
35. warning us of 4 Wheel Drive Only We kept a sharp eye out for the tire tracks of both Bob s and Gary s bikes to know that they were still out front At about 6 00 when the sun started to come up the Vampire Hour we realised how far away from sanity we were We had to climb out at around 7 000 feet and finally hit pavement After 24 more miles we were in Big Pine 150 miles back to camp The morning view of the Sierras made the trip worth while On our way back entering Panamint Springs we saw Gary s Motorhome heading out so we now knew he made it back OK We stopped at Panamint Springs where Kiwi and Rocky were just leaving and they filled us in on the Crash We had all made it out OK and in the end we all feel we had Quite The Adventure We are already talking about doing it again next year better prepared though In the end if we had all said Oh Well Bob will eventually turn around and we all immediately gone back we would have all made it back to camp by mid night including Bob except that would have been UNACCEPTABLE You don t leave your Pals out on the trail And you never ride out alone EVEH We were all discussing the possibility of a Death Valley Enduro each year at the Max Bubeck Road Run for properly prepared Vintage bikes We have been riding in Titus Canyon for years now and this new route is allot more adventurous than that So start dusting off those Catalina Gold Stars the 441 Victors Ariel Red Hunte
36. wiring diagram ridgid frame and s1 models 45 plus p amp p s2 models 50 plus p amp p New points covers all models 8 each plus p amp p piston rings plus 30 8 per set plus p amp p Brave engines rebuilt with sealed needle roller conversion to drive side bearing Estimates given John Chatterton tel 01663 747106 6 00 9 00 PM indianjohn fsmail net For Sale Harley Davidson FLSTC Heritage Classic V Reg 22000 miles very good condition New battery and brake shoes with lots of extras 9 950 ONO Call Graham Jeffery 0044 1665 576217 AUSTRIA For free Pictures of the 1 AUSTHIAN INDIAN TOUR on the website of Austrian Indian Riders http members aon at austrian indian riders BELGIUM For Sale 1958 Harley Davidson complete restored Georg amp Marga Schulz B Tel 32 489 903966 Email marga schulz eupen de Wanted m looking for the following parts for a military CAV sidecar 42809 rear fitting 23B104 brake lever x 2 40958 brake rod 26B207 coil spring 75636 brake rod between lever 42840 and lever 36B225 45089 Bolt on rear fitting 5 8 18 3 5 8 For Indian 340 CAV Looking for any documentation pictures manuals descriptions old articles books pictures from movie archives illustrated user manual etc looking too for CAV registration numbers Indian CAV military tand sad second solo seat for passenger tand sad handle and hardware buy or swap Martin M Bogaert B Tel 32 477 340340 Email
37. years past and decided to take on a 60 70 mile 4 wheel drive off road track over Hunter Mountain with absolutely no services what so ever The beautiful natural beauty of the scenery in out of the way places is well worth the trip in itself and its about as far as one can get to being in the middle of no where This was by far the biggest challenge any one of us had ever taken out here and none of us really knew what the road was really like other than it looked interesting on the map Gas was going to be the biggest challenge as we were going to cut it fine but we should all able to barely make it to Panamount springs civilisation Keep in mind there is no cell phone service in Death Valley none what so ever so communication is a problem if we should ever need any About an hr into the ride we came across a nice couple in their 4 wheel drive jeep liberty that had a flat tire and while changing it the jeep slipped off the jack and destroyed the jack So now the jeep was sitting on a cockeyed wheel and they were done They had been waiting for 4 hrs until we came along to save their day 1hr into this ride only amounted to about 1 4 of the way if that The road was all loose gravel rocks boulders washouts dirt switch backs hills mountains just about everything what a dirt bike is designed for and not any Indian especially a rigid frame bucking broncho bobber but hell if it can do Titus canyon it can do this too It would not be a challenge if we al
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