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1. REES REVIEW Carenado EYOND SIMULATION HawkereodS0 DISERTES The Hawker 850XP was mainly built By Hawker Beechcraft that bought the rights to manufacture the Hawker planes in March 2007 It was around 1 year after the Hawker 850XP was certified for ope ration But sadly 15 no longer in produc tion as it was ended by 2013 as the Hawker Beechcraft closed the production after the company had tried to sell the rights but it had failed But then 5 good that we got a brand new aircraft by Carenado of the Hawker 850 then it can continue the virtual sky as well The 850XP model should be close to the 800 by some changes avio nic and interior but the biggest difference was that they mounted the winglets by default and that alone increased the ran ge by 100NM for the 850XP GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS Crew 2 pilots Capacity 8 13 passengers Length 51 ft 15 6 m Wingspan 54 ft 16 55 Height 17 ft 5 31 m Empty weight 15 670 Ib 7 108 kg Max weight 28 000 Ib 12 701 kg Powerplant 2 x Honeywell TFE731 5BR turbofan 466016 each PERFORMANCE Mach 0 80 448 kts 830 km h 402 kts 745 km h Never exceed speed Maximum speed Cruise speed Stall speed 170 km h Range 2 642 nm Service ceiling max 41 000 ft Rate of climb 1948 8 ft min Source http en wikipedia org wiki Hawker_ 800 means e2. even it shows gps it fol low FMS but distance and FMS text is not shown and why it 5 best to select FMS Carenado just cover every corner ha vent found any problems missing texture spots any bad areas But it also what Carenado are best known for High Quality interior texturing Navigraph database Well have mentioned it a bit before but here highlighted the issue as what should select can t see difference by the name so what is the difference compared to the airport chart This is not the plane Carenado it the data the plane get 5 from the Navigraph database as have checked the case before mention it EDBC ARRIVAL 1 1 ACT FPLN APPR lt SEL gt ILS 126 TRANS oe IDX DEP MFD MFD FPLN LEGS ARR PERF MENU ADV 3 6 9 Q 35042 have seen some that mean the cabin is not up to the normal Carenado stan dard and well it could be right but I still dosen problem it still looks nice personaly like it that way as it 5 not that bad but a good compromise by proformance as the aircraft has better FPS than some of there other releases The only thing that irritates me a bit is the cabin spots are locked so you can t move around to a spot you like Well even I had some headache trying to get everything working right out of the box even am a quite experienced sim mer think they are
3. 000 like it does when VNAV 15 in use A nice touch by Carenado that many ot her just don t make is the half bank op tion it 5 nice to see it has been imple mented and 15 working and not only a I button It actually limit the bank when turned on guess the passengers would enjoy that when they get a meal This aircraft has 6 painted liveries and a completely white one all in Fully HD tex tures like they always do by the latest planes take a look at the nice paint job UN FFLIGHTIMAGAZINE Exterior High lights Nice detail of the wings and thrust reversers action the lower speed brakes be seen for the flaps but is on this plane a bit special 4 e te ae ite et Se RR ee oS ret og tee ee Carenado realy knows how to get those planes shinny and look real like a real plane from inside out Sadly realy show there latest effect by the wings of the exterior as they have implented the Flexing wing effect you might not notice it much but it would be good for such small plane if the move like a heavyer plane A hint ts to try adjust the camera from the captain seat and taxi then you might notice it moves a bit that might be easyer to spot than in the air Interior Carenado implemented that some but tons has differ
4. but since they implement more stuff like V nav and flight level changes and so on they move over to more complex systems out of the default world of FSX P3D co ding When we have that in mind it would be nice to where it bring them over time as it seems like they slowly build somet hing solid or maybe a test of how far it can bring them 2330045 The Documentation 15 7 PDF files that contains around 100 pages total some are manual and some performance data taken directly as scanned copy s and a bit extra But the documentation in some areas is a bit limited about how things are working and why it might not be quite straight forward if you haven t been flying such a jet before even for experienced user it could be difficult to learn it without a few test flights How ever the most important document to read is the Proline 21 User Manual as it explains the basic of how the FMS and displays are work working combination to the autopilot as well Some of the con tent could be a bit better explained by li mitations and how displays fully works combination The Proline 21 User Manual document gives you an example of a route and how to insert it to the FMS so if you re new to that part they show you how easy It Is always say easier than the default GPS in use when you learn it as you have a Key pad instead of most GPS that provide ro tation buttons to navigate through the menus and
5. letters know Garmin today provide touch GPS that makes that part easier But that side story If you for some reason are still thinking about if the plane might work by using default flight plans imported to the flight simulator would say there is no note about it in the manual have tryeid it for you and the answer is both Yes and No because the plane seems to read the flight plan if there is no active flight plan entered to the FMS There is then the li mitation to it and it 5 that the displays would not show you the route and then the interest might get low but might in dicate that it was not intented from the start to implement a FMS that 15 based on Navigraph support As you can find GPS1 as nav source of the PFD can t Say if the real plane have that option aswell since have never had a chance to get in toa real Hawker 850XP A missing link in my personal opinion 15 that there is no way the end user can im port company routes whenever it sa route that s flown often and saved from inside the simulator or by external sour ce Because there 15 no documentation that indicate such a feature 15 there But guess some would like to use external programs to build a flight plan and import it to the FMS But we have to be fair and take one step at a time remember that Rome was not built in a year They implemented other things like Navigraph support and that alone was a good step and also was quite time de
6. vector Graphisc 0 91 Scribus Version 1 4 5 Credits Magazine Designer Lars N Carenado www carenado com 29Palms Scenery Design www 29palms de Copyright All materials in this document is copyrighted the owners and may not be used anywhere else without per mission Further is it strictly prohibited to use any material from this document or sell any content of it The use of this document is at the end users own risk SEE YOU IN THE AIR
7. dit from source website Carenado Highlights This ts the first aircraft that rolls out of the hangar from carenado which has ful ly Updatable Navigraph database out of the box As Carenado slowly introduced universal FMS mean it was by the lease of the B1900D that Carenado for the first time introduced a basic FMS that still used the flight simulator s own navi gation database We previously saw a release of an ex tension pack for the 550 citation Il a few months after the S550 was released But for the first time it s a complete im plementation of the Navigraph support by the aircraft Over the years the demand has increa sed for getting the option to get update able Navigation databases to get some more accurate data which many buy for some of their other aircrafts To complete the story it seems like Carenado has mo ved from general aviation planes only to more commercial business jet to try to go in to another world where the real planes have FMS to reach another range of costumers and slowly make the chan ges by some of the releases But the story does not stop there as it s not only the Navigation database that has changed but also the implementation of more autopilot custom made functions in order to achieve the option to go away from default flight simulator autopilot as some would have noticed in their pre viously released planes we could use Hardware Autopilots right out of the box
8. ent brightness adjustments for some of the rotting buttons so it would require a lot of pictures to show all the adjustments a really nice touch that the user now is able to adjust some of the interior lights to what you like But note not all the buttons have that option gt As side note to the left in the picture above you find the APU panel so if you wounder where it is that s the spot Note the plane stil has no Autothrottle if you did not read the first part as it was not standard but an upgrade option just like when you buy a new UN FFLIGHTIMAGAZINE A few s To use of the rotation button under the BRG 15 to move the mouse around that button as see pro blem by the click spots of this button and found some that claim it does not work to select all the functions of the PFD and MFD but say all be selected but really had to move the mouse all around the button or right at the top of it to wor k and as final note use the NAV BRG but ton when you want to select as the option on the PFD seems to be harder to get switch it also sometimes give you the te xt GPS1 if you use the PFD button that why advise you to use the other way and it gives you more options as well But dokumentation seems a bit limited in this part so it ends in confusion as can see it was build for the original gps only guess and then they decided to go the ot her way they did
9. manding but there is al ways place for improvement The picture below has highlighted but tons that is not operational at the given page shown just to illustrate some of the links in the FMS is not fully completed lt SEL gt ILS 26 lt SEL gt MAG gt PREV NEXT MFD MFD ADV DATA aE U 4 It 5 important to say 5 not because the pages does not exist in the FMS as they do but you would expect by pres sing those buttons beside the text at the given page shown also would move you to that page it indicate but does not always do The reason have highlighted the EXEC button is that we normally have to con firm when we done and want the gi ven input in to the active flight plan as right now it s moved to the Legs immediately but is a small thing that doesn t makes a huge difference So far found 2 things would mention by the FMS first thing is that at some air ports that does not have SID you can t select departure runway like you normal ly would do The second thing 15 that sometimes when load a star get 2 or more waypoints By the same name so take close attention as sometimes 5 the same other times it s different loca tions but by the same name so don t just say remove as they might be different lo cations but then we are back to Navi graph and not the plane Note if you have a short route by only 1 Waypoint and then a star you wo
10. moving slowly in the right direction by every release and ex panding the depth of the aircrafts But the weak sides are the manual that seems a bit limited and you have to explorer a bit by yourself to get the best out of every situation Also the Flight level Change was a problem either 5 slow in the real thing did something wrong but the manual does not say much about how to use it correctly but have used FLC in other planes by perfection the rotation button mentioned under NAV BRG would be nice if fixed would be to see full VNAV the next plane if they select to go that way again to get over manual calculation But it s not all negative even it might seem so They really have given this plane a good wind drag effect and the engines you have to be ahead of as small adjust ments can make huge speed changes if the pilot is not careful It s a bit getting use to that response time At the ground you find those engines need quite some thrust to move the plane realy like the FPS this plane I ha vent got any problems by it so far fluid and thats realy nice and what we all have been so excited about to find out But as always the visual is stunning as always A big thanks to Carenado for sponsoring this review by sending a copy aswell as to Lars 29Palms Scenery Design to show Twentynine Palms Airport by a copy This magazin was created by free tools Gimp Image Editor 2 8 Inkscape
11. tween waypoints The plane might not get to the best altitude for that flight if the way points are too far from each other could also be that during decent it start a 500 ft decent as the plane only knows that it passed point A at 280 and by point B it should be at FL260 30NM away as the FMS tell it to so the plane would try catch that even you might want to keep FL280 a bit longer and make a steeper decent that would be more rea listic AUTOPI LOT FLC AND VNAV The autopilot is like any other autopilot but since the aircraft has some more ad vanced modes that is not found in default aircrafts would now go thru those mo des and talk a bit about some problems that got in to when I tested it To complete the VNAV we start of there as when for the first time push the VNAV button the autopilot turn off and woundered because for an unknown rea son Carenado made the VNAV button turn on the autopilot at the same time So as already turned on the autopilot like you normally do it switched off the autopilot again It was not the way was expecting the autopilot to do FLC or better known as Flight Level Change it might be handy but seems a bit weak specialy when weather is tur ned on Because have tried to set it quite some times by now and it had a hard time maintaining the speed you set very slow pitch VS changes 11 5 not because the speed bug goes to
12. uld noti ce that the LEGS page does not show that 1 waypoint before the star in that case select page 2 of the FPLN page and type it as you normally would do or type it direc tly by the LEGS page insted Only that way it would be loaded a very small limi tation FMS VNAV VNAV has limited functionality as its stated by the store page it can Set diffe rent altitudes for different waypoints and that s basically what it does So don t expect VNAV like seen in a Boeing that has calculation of both top of Climb and 4 top of decent as it does not have a so called specific VNAV page in the FMS But how does that then work You might ask yourself Well after you have entered the flight plan to the FMS it got the alti tude limitations and such from sids and stars where they are provided in the Nav data the rest of your route is set by de fault to FL280 or 28000FT and have to be manually edited there is sadly no short cuts there to set the max altitude and let the FMS calculated the rest of the altitu des That might make it less user friend ly as you really have to know what alti tude the plane can reach before you should decent again and by how many feet you should climb or decent for each waypoint Because a wrong number can be too steep and the plane would either stall or over speed There are other problems it might cause as well because depending on how long or short the route is and how far there are be
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