TSB 05-034
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1. Under hood Fuse Relay Box 2003 04 Accord L4 2 door LX EX 4 door EX P N 38250 SDA A21 H C 7136617 2003 04 Accord L4 4 door DX P N 38250 SDA A11 H C 7136609 2003 04 Accord L4 4 door LX P N 38250 SDA A01 H C 7136591 2003 04 Accord V6 All P N 38250 SDB A21 H C 7136641 2005 Accord L4 DX P N 38250 SDA A12 H C 7773799 2005 Accord L4 LX P N 38250 SDA A02 H C 7773781 2005 Accord L4 EX P N 38250 SDA A22 H C 7773807 2005 Accord V6 All P N 38250 SDB A22 H C 7773831 2005 Odyssey LX P N 38250 SHJ A01 H C 7708191 2005 Odyssey EX EX L Touring P N 38250 SHJ A21 H C 7708209 WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION In warranty The normal warranty applies OP Description FRT 7301A1 Accord and Odyssey replace the under 0 5 hood fuse relay box 121195 Element replace the ELD 0 4 Failed Part P N 38255 S5A 003 H C 7987571 Defect Code 03217 Symptom Code 07411 Skill Level Repair Technician Out of warranty Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office You must request consideration and get a decision before starting work ATB 28971 31552 0512 1 of 4 CUSTOMER INFORMATION The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools equipment and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehi2. 50A Retain 8 Release the tab that holds the ELD and pull up on the ELD to remove it ELD ELD Replace BUS BAR Retain 9 Remove the bus bar from the ELD and insert the bar into the new ELD 10 Install the new ELD and bus bar 11 Reinstall the two fuses 12 Reconnect the 3P ELD connector and reinstall the lower cover onto the fuse relay box 13 Reinstall the fuse relay box and the wire harness clip onto the holder 3 of 4 14 Reinstall the fuse relay box cover 15 Reconnect the negative battery cable 16 Clear the DTC 17 Reset the power window control unit Turn the ignition switch to ON II and make sure the driver s window AUTO function does not work Start the engine Push down the driver s power window switch to the second detent AUTO down to lower the driver s window all the way down When the window reaches the bottom hold the switch in the AUTO down position for 2 more seconds Pull up the driver s power window switch to raise the driver s window all the way up without stopping When the window reaches the top hold the switch in the up position for 2 more seconds If the driver s window AUTO function does not work repeat this power window control unit reset procedure 18 Do the idle learn procedure Make sure all electrical items A C audio unit defogger lights etc are off Start the engine and let it warm up to its normal operating tempera
3. Skill Level REPAIR HONDA Service Bulletin 05 034 Applies To See VEHICLES AFFECTED December 14 2005 Headlights Dim or DTC P1298 Is Stored in the ECM PCM Supersedes 05 034 dated September 13 2005 to update the information marked with the black bars SYMPTOM The headlights dim with the engine running and the headlights on or DTC P1298 electronic load detector ELD circuit high voltage is stored in the ECM PCM but the headlights do not dim PROBABLE CAUSE The ELD has a faulty solder joint VEHICLES AFFECTED 2003 04 Accord ALL 2005 Accord L4 2 door From VIN 1HGCM7 5A000001 thru 1HGCM7 5A006329 2005 Accord L4 4 door From VIN 1HGCM5 5A000001 thru 1HGCMS5S 5A035840 From VIN 3HGCM5 5G700001 thru 3HGCM5B 5G701907 All Japan built VIN begins with JHM 2005 Accord V6 2 door From VIN 1HGCM8 5A000001 thru 1HGCMB8 5A005073 2005 Accord V6 4 door From VIN 1HGCM6 5A000001 thru 1HGCM6 5A017546 2003 Element ALL 2004 Element 2WD From VIN 5J6YH1 4L000001 thru 5J6YH1 4L015490 2004 Element 4WD From VIN 5J6YH2 4L000001 thru 5J6YH2 4L037697 2005 Odyssey From VIN 5FNRL38 5B000001 thru 5FNRL38 5B018359 CORRECTIVE ACTION Accord and Odyssey Replace the under hood fuse relay box Element Replace the ELD 2005 American Honda Motor Co Inc All Rights Reserved PARTS INFORMATION Electronic Load Detector P N 38255 S5A 003 H C 7987571
4. cle These procedures should not be attempted by do it yourselfers and you should not assume this bulletin applies to your vehicle or that your vehicle has the condition described To determine whether this information applies contact an authorized Honda automobile dealer DIAGNOSIS If the headlights dim when the engine is running connect the HDS to the DLC 1 With the HDS in the PGM FI Data List start the engine and let it idle 2 Turn on the headlights Monitor the ELD value on the Data List e If the ELD value is less than 18 amps For Accord go to REPAIR PROCEDURE A ACCORD For Odyssey go to REPAIR PROCEDURE B ODYSSEY For Element go to REPAIR PROCEDURE C ELEMENT e If the ELD value is greater than 18 amps disregard this bulletin and continue with normal troubleshooting NOTE A faulty ELD may cause the charging system to fluctuate between 12 5 volt and 14 5 volt modes with the engine running and the headlights on This fluctuation causes the headlights to dim Under normal operating conditions the charging system operates in the 14 5 volt mode If the headlights do not dim but DTC P1298 is stored in the ECM PCM e For Accord go to REPAIR PROCEDURE A ACCORD e For Odyssey go to REPAIR PROCEDURE B ODYSSEY e For Element go to REPAIR PROCEDURE C ELEMENT NOTE When DTC P1298 is set the charging system is fixed in the 14 5 volt mode preventing the headlights from dimmin
5. g REPAIR PROCEDURE A ACCORD 1 Replace the under hood fuse relay box e Refer to page 22 71 of the 2003 05 Accord Service Manual or e Online enter keyword UNDER HOOD REM and select Under hood Fuse Relay Box Removal and Installation from the list 2 If necessary clear the DTC with the HDS 2 of 4 REPAIR PROCEDURE B ODYSSEY 1 Replace the under hood fuse relay box e Refer to page 22 85 of the 2005 06 Odyssey Service Manual or e Online enter keyword UNDER HOOD REM and select Under hood Fuse Relay Box Removal and Installation from the list 2 If necessary clear the DTC with the HDS REPAIR PROCEDURE C ELEMENT 1 Make sure you have the anti theft code for the audio system Write down the customer s audio unit presets 2 Disconnect the negative battery cable from the battery 3 Remove the under hood fuse relay box cover 4 Release the three clips and remove the under hood fuse relay box from the holder Release the wire harness clip from the fuse relay box holder WIRE HARNESS x CLIP LI Disconnect UNDER HOOD FUSE RELAY BOX HOLDER UNDER HOOD FUSE RELAY BOX 05 034 5 Remove the lower cover from the fuse relay box LOWER COVER Pry off UNDERSIDE OF THE FUSE RELAY BOX 6 Disconnect the 3P ELD connector 3P ELD CONNECTOR 05 034 7 Remove the four screws that hold the two fuses then remove the fuses FUSE 100A Retain FUSE
6. ture the cooling fans cycle twice Let the engine idle throttle closed and all electrical items off for 10 minutes 19 Enter the audio system anti theft code and set the clock Enter the audio unit presets 4 of 4 05 034
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