“Welcome to the Modern Age....Alternators”
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1. 5 One wire alternators work well on modern V 8 engines that have an idle speed of 1100 rpm or greater On the other hand most antique engines have an idle speed of 500 800 rpm which is too slow to engage a one wire alternator that requires an engine speed of at least 1100 rpm 6 DO NOT remove one cable from the battery while your vehicle is running to see if your alternator is charging This practice will cause serious damage to your alternator 7 The smooth bearing surface on the back of an alternator is one place to check to see if your alternator is charging If this surface is magnetized while your car is running the chances are good your alternator is working 8 You can also use your volt meter at either the 10 32 stud on the back of the alternator or at the battery to check your alternator s output You can also place your amp gauge in line between the 10 32 stud on the alternator and the load wire Then by turning on accessories you can measure the amperage output of the alternator We would like to thank Randy Rundle for allowing us to use this excerpt from his Wired For Success book 112. Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators ALTERNATORS With the addition of more and more electrical accessories the car manufacturers of the early 1960 s again found themselves in much the same spot as in the mid 1950 s The demand for electri cal energy was growing steadily while the generator charging system just about reached its design limits as far as increasing the output It was time for change The car manufacturers had been working on a new type of charging system for a number of years Having experienced this same problem before they knew what was coming So along about 1963 most of the car manufacturers introduced a new type of charging system using what is called an alternator It was so named because this new charging system produced an alternating or AC current as opposed to the generator type charging system which produced only DC current While the battery and all of the accessories still required DC current the new charging system proved to be a winner Let s take a look and see how alternators work and how AC voltage is turned into DC voltage For our example we will use Delco system because they are probably the most common and easiest to understand The parts of this new alternator charging system consist of a stator assembly the rotor assembly the slip ring end frame and finally a drive end housing Let s look at each of these parts separately so we can understand just what duty each of them is s
3. wire also goes to the 10 32 stud at the back of the alternator It is internally connected to the regulator The white wire is the exciter wire Typical alternator wiring installation 8 Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators The white wire takes about 1 5 volts from the battery when the ignition switch is first turned to the on position and sends it to the alternator s field circuit This field current tells the alternator to begin charging regardless of the rom the engine is running This is why a two wire system works so much better on the vintage car applications The second wire will excite the alternator and make it begin to charge regardless of the engine rom This will even work on cars and trucks of the early 1930 s that have an idle speed of just 400 500 rpm Typical alternator wiring installation WHAT IS THE R TERMINAL OF THE ALTERNATOR FOR The R terminal or Relay terminal as it is sometimes called provided some of the alternator s output and was used to power electric tachometers a dash light hour meters or other modern ac cessories In some applications it was connected to the dash light to give notice if the alternator was failing to charge The R terminal was simply a necessity of modern times the newer cars no longer have an amp gauge or volt meter in the dash There has to be some way of keeping track of what is going on By the way did you ever wonder which car co
4. Grounding generator held winding 10 Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators until you just touch the small metal tab Now carefully touch this tab with the screwdriver and then touch the screwdriver shaft to the edge of the alternator housing This procedure will bypass the regulator to tell you if the alternator itself is charging You will only want to do this for a brief time If your alternator shows an increased output when you bypass the regulator the chances are the regulator itself is at fault If there is no increased out put then the alternator is in need of attention Because of their design and the way they are built alternator charging systems regardless of brand are for the most part trouble free and require little maintenance They all work using the same basic principles which you now understand Following instructions in a service manual should be no problem Review 1 One of the main advantages of an alternator over a generator is that the alternator will produce current at idle and low rpm the generator is unable to do that 2 Alternators will readily accept a higher working rpm there for they can provide a greater output at idle and low rpm Alternators can run up to about 12 000 rpm alternator speed without damage 3 Alternator output at idle will typically be 50 percent of the maximum rated output 4 A DA plug will allow you to keep your original ignition switch when updating to an alternator
5. add 20 percent as a reserve The total number you come up with is the smallest size your alternator s output should be ALTERNATOR OUPUT RATINGS An alternator s output is rated much like a generator s and is the maximum output that the alternator is capable of producing for an extended period of time Unlike a generator however an alternator will normally provide 60 percent of its rated output at an idle This is why you add a 20 percent reserve to your total output requirements so you won t run short of amps at idle DC OUTPUT AMPERES HEKEAA TOS GUTPUT AMPEAES OUTPUT COMPARISON ALTERNATOR VS GENERATOR Above is a comparison chart comparing the alternator to the generator system Notice that while the alternator has a steady output at the higher rpm the generator s output will actually fall at the higher rpm Keep in mind that normally alternators and generators are driven from the engine at 1 1 2 times the engine speed It is also important to notice the output of the alternator vs the generator at idle and low rpm This has a considerable effect on the life of the battery in your car and the performance of the entire charging system The rpm speed show on these graphs is actual rpm of the alternators generators Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators If we use a 1950 Chevrolet car as an example we know that all of the accessories together will require 36 amps If we later on decide to add an electric fuel
6. assembled When this happens the cooling fan on the front of the alternator spins backwards and doesn t provide much cooling The result is an alternator that runs hot and overheats just like a car engine The final result is an early alternator failure Note For some alternators you can purchase or specify a bi direc tional fan that will cool the alternator regardless of which way it spins Nor mally there is little or no additional cost for this style of fan you just have to ask for it 12 51 SERESITYPE 100 D C AMPERES OUTPUT TERAATDA Oar B MOR peo wee AATE Guteul 66 Amps EI amen uav TE amos Ba dummies 3 Amps 20 Amps Amperage output at alternator idle speed Weigh amp 1Eg 11 2 Ibe Performance Curve WV 78 AMP a E ee PS T 1 F _ Ls 12 66 AMP DC OUTPUT AMPERES 5 30 20 10 0 1000 2000 moO poo 5000 68000 7000 8000 gt 12000 High amp alternator output Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators HOW DO I TELL WHAT KIND OF FAN HAVE When looking down into the fan blades from a top view a counter clockwise rotation fan ccw will have the blade on the RIGHT HAND portion of the welded on blade In contrast a clockwise fan cw will have the blade on the LEFT HAND portion of the welded on blade Be sure when you purchase an alternator that the cooling fan will match the direction of rotation of your application PULLEY SIZES When shopping
7. like generators are usually grounded through the engine block via the mounting bracket But on some applications where both the mounting bracket and the engine block have been painted the alternator will not be grounded This will sometimes show up as in intermittent charging problem The simple solution is to run a color matched short 18 gauge wire from the back of the alternator to the engine block like a bolt on the manifold Be sure you have a clean metal to metal contact HOW DO YOU CHECK AN ALTERNATOR CHARGING SYSTEM First lets check the alternator with the external regulator It is really quite simple Again we will use a GM Style alternator and regulator as an example because they are the most common If you have another application just follow along in your shop manual Many of the procedures will be the same The first thing to check at the sign of a charging problem is the wiring Check for damaged or frayed insulation as well as loose or corroded connection Terminal ends should be cleaned and tightened as necessary Be sure the alternator drive belt is not loose You can check the voltage at the battery and the alternator output stud to confirm you have a charging problem Also check to make sure there is not a problem with a poor ground or a loose wire at either the regulator or the alternator Most alternator charging systems are for the most part trouble free To check the output of the alternator place your amp gauge between th
8. pump it will draw about 5 amps maximum Maybe an electric radiator cooling fan would be nice those draw about 6 amps max so now we are up to 47 amps If we add a 20 percent reserve to our 47 amps we now have a total of 57 amps A common size for alternators is 63 amps We are well within range of our output require ments Now what we have to do is decide if we want to stay with a 6 volt system or change over to a 12 volt system If we change over to a 12 volt system we would need only half of our 57 amp total But it would mean the extra expense changing all of the bulbs and related accessories If we stay with 6 volts it would be nice to find a 6 volt alternator But we need to be sure the alternator we buy actually puts out the amperage it is rated at How can you be sure One way is by looking to see how they are built A 6 VOLT ALTERNATOR IS A 6 VOLT ALTERNATOR RIGHT This is where you get into trouble There are three common ways to build a 6 volt alterna tor The way your alternator is built will determine in parts what output that alternator is capable of producing and also the lifespan of your alternator The easiest way to build a 6 volt alternator is to place a 6 volt regulator inside of a 12 volt alternator Using an internal regulated Delco alternator makes this quite a simple task But the rule of amps and volts also works in reverse So if you start out with a 60 amp 12 volt alternator and then replace the regulator with a 6
9. take one battery cable off of the battery while the vehicle is running to see if the alternator is charging This is the same as running your vehicle s engine wide open in neutral 3 Do not short across OR ground any of the terminals on the alternator OR the regulator 4 When jump starting your vehicle BE SURE you connect positive post to positive post and negative post to negative post Also remember RED is always the positive and the BLACK is always the negative This same rule also applies when you are connecting your battery to a charger ANY transistorized device this includes your alternator is not forgiving if you hook up your battery connections backwards Consider yourself fore warned 5 Do not over tighten the drive belt About one half inch of play in the middle of the belt at a point located at the center of the distance between the alternator and the next accessory is just fine A belt that is too tight will wear 9 Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators out the front bearing of the alternator before it s time 6 Be sure you have a good engine to frame ground and a good battery to frame ground Also be sure your alter nator is grounded to the engine well In some applications it is necessary to run a short ground strap from the back of the alternator case over to the engine block If this is the case a threaded hole is provided on the back of the alternator case at about the 5 o clock position Alternators
10. able locally at any full line auto parts tore such as CarQuest NAPA BIG A etc as well as any alternator repair shop Another thing you want to decide is what clock position you want your alternator to have The clock position is simply the location where the wiring harness plugs into the alternator As you might guess this is determined by looking at the front of the alternator and seeing where the harness plug is located It is just like the face of a clock Twelve o clock is straight up To the right a quarter of a turn is the 3 o clock position etc Pretty simple With the clock position of your alternator at 12 o clock this will allow your wiring harness to plug into the alternator on top You can ask for any clock position you want to match your applica tion the clock position can be changed fairly easily either by someone at the auto parts store or your local alternator shop WIRING THE ALTERNATOR Most of you will use the GM style alternator we talked about earlier Wiring this alternator is simple First you remove the BATT wire from the old regulator and connect it to the 10 32 stud on the back of the alternation marked Batt You can tape all of the rest of the wires from the old voltage regu lator back into the original harness for future gen erations to use when restoring your vehicle The plug in harness that plugs into the top of the alternator will have two wires coming out of it The red load
11. diameter then those found on a generator This helps account for the alternator s strong output at engine idle because the alternator is spinning at higher rpm during idle A smaller diameter pulley can be used on an alternator because it is more difficult to damage an alternator by too high of rotor speed Maximum rpm for an alternator is about 12 000 rpm Most alternators are driven at 1 5 of engine speed To reach maximum alternator rom a normal automotive engine application would have to be turning 8 000 rpm which would not happen for long Alternators are usually easier to repair than a generator There is no armature to undercut and no commutator grooves to clean Sealed bearings used in alternator construction means most alternators are trouble free in between normal repairs Eighty to one hundred thousand miles of use is common for most modern alternators with little maintenance required UPDATING TO AN ALTERNATOR IF AN ALTERNATOR IS SO WONDERFUL IS IT HARD TO INSTALL ONE ON A VEHICLE THAT HAS A GENERATOR SYSTEM 3 Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators Surprisingly not if you do a little homework beforehand Your first task will be to figure out how big of an alternator you will need for your application To figure this out simply add up the total amp draw of all of your accessories including those extra accessories you have added or are maybe going to add in the future To that total
12. e load wire and the BATT stud on the back of the alternator Start the engine and turn on headlights and a heater motor The amp gauge should show a positive charge If it does not the alternator should be checked If an overcharge condition exists when you must add water to the battery on a regular basis you should check the battery for a shorted cell in the battery The low charge in that one cell will tell the regulator that a low voltage condition exists CHECKING THE REGULATOR You can remove the cover of the early style regula INSERT SCREWDRIVER tors and check to see if the points are working closing TAB GROUND TAB TO END FRAME when the accessory load is being turned on Carefully check to be sure the points are not burnt or stuck to gether You can check your service manual for further va rae help but if the points are not working properly then you know the regulator is partly at fault INTERNAL REGULATED ALTERNATORS are even easier to check First as you would for any system check for loose wires and corroded connections dirty terminals a poor ground or a loose drive belt To check the regulator of an internal regulated alternator is quite simple All that you need to do is carefully insert a small screwdriver in the D shaped hold on the back of the alternator This D shaped hole is located about the 2 o clock position on the back of the alternator Carefully slide a small screwdriver into the hold
13. ernator works great on the modern style V 8 engines for which it was designed The idle speed of these engines is near to the alternator s engagement speed But when they are used on early antique engines you will have trouble making the alternator engage and begin to charge The reason for this is because your antique engine has an idle speed of between 600 and 800 rpm whereas the alternator requires a minimum of 1200 rpm engine speed to begin to charge This may not happen for a few minutes so in the meantime you use the battery for electrical energy Then when the engagement rpm is reached the electrical load is dumped onto the alterna tor all at once This will place an extra strain on the alternator Like revving the motor up in your car then dumping the clutch In short these one wire alternators work great for the applications they were designed for but they do not work so well on the older vehicle Some of you no doubt had one of these alternators and have had this experience Selecting an alternator for your application is not difficult you simply have to do a little home work to obtain the results you want RUNDLE S RULES If you are shopping for a 12 volt alternator the one recommend is called a 10SI series they were used on GM products between 1973 and 1985 They are like the Model T of alternators They are simple in design easy to work on reliable and they adapt easily to the older applications They are avail
14. es you must follow include making the bracket strong enough to support the alternator and being sure the alternator pulley lines up with the rest of the pulleys Be sure also that you allow enough room to clear any obstacles or accessories when building your own bracket Fifth Avenue carries a wide selection of alternator mounting brackets for a number of popular applications including 1928 1953 Ford cars and trucks as well as 1937 1962 Chevrolet cars and trucks In addi tion they have a number of specialty brackets available to cover most any application ONE WIRE ALTERNATORS became popular in the early 1970 s Instead of having two wires coming out of the top of the alternator via the little white plug there is a rubber plug where the wiring harness normally is The only connection you have to make to the alternator is the BATT wire that Two different types of alternator mount ing brackets 7 Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators connects to the 10 32 stud on the back of the alternator Hence the one wire name How do they work By the use of a special regulator the alternator uses the electrical current stored inside of the rotor to self excite itself This is done when the alternator rom reach about 1200 rpm engine speed the internal current is released and the alternator will begin to charge The higher the output of the alternator the faster or higher the engagement speed will be This style of alt
15. for an alternator be sure you look for one that has the correct diameter of pulley TE You want one that is smaller in diameter than the one a that was on your generator Remember that the po om faster your alternator spins at idle the greater the k a A output will be There is also a wide selection of F S pre _f special pulleys available so you can run accessories Al from your alternator This way you do not have to try SA st to find a multi groove crankshaft pulley You do not want to use the original pulley off of your generator even if it fits as the diameter is too large Two different styles of machine steel pulleys The left one is a standard 3 8 single groove the right a two groove pulley For longer life machine steel pulleys are preferred over pressed tin pulleys Some of the pulley combinations available include standard 3 8 two groove 3 8 two groove A wide width 72 width size and finally a two groove and 3 8 combination It is quite a handy trick to run your power steering on you re a c compressor from the alternator MOUNTING BRACKETS For the majority of applications there is a replace ment mounting bracket available to mount an alternator in place of a generator This is by far the easiest and cheapest in the long run If you are the home improve ment type you can sometimes modify or build a replace ment bracket of your own Two different types of alternator mounting brackets The two rul
16. he generator s brushes The regulator used on the early alternators was much like those used by the generators It wasn t long however before the external regulators became solid state This eliminated many of the common problems inherit in all regulators in general The temperature change along with the arcing of the points were two of the major problems that were overcome resulting in a much more reliable charging system Along about 1973 Delco engineers figured out how to place a solid state regulator inside of the alternator Typically alternator output by this time was in the 60 amp range which allowed for a good reserve capacity Many other manufacturers did the same k la ri j 1 i FEATURES amp BENEFITS ALTERNATORS VS GENERATORS Construction is the primary difference In the case of a generator the armature is the part that spins limiting the rom the generator can spin without damage But an alternator on the other hand has the armature stationary and it s the field windings that spin eliminating the problem of high rom damage Weight is another factor Most 40 amp generators of the era weighed 30 plus pounds each In contract a modern alternator weighs only 11 pounds and has a 60 amp output plus the alternator has the ability to recharge the battery at idle and low rpm Another obvious difference is pulley diameter On an alternator it is not uncommon for a pulley to be one third smaller in
17. mpany was the first to introduce the idiot lights in the dash that replaced mechanical gauges That honor belongs to the Hudson Automobile Com pany who began the practice in the early 1950 s IS THERE ANY SIMPLE WAY TO CHECK MY ALTERNATOR TO SEE IF IT IS WORKING Yes there is The easiest way is to touch a screwdriver to the smooth bearing surface on the back of the alternator while the vehicle is running If that bearing surface is magnetized the chances are good that the alternator is working Another way is to get out your trusty volt meter and place the positive lead on the 10 32 stud on the back of the alternator while it is running The resulting voltage will tell you if things are working okay You can also use your amp gauge at this location to see what kind of amps your alternator is producing Connect your amp gauge in line between the load wire from the dash and the 10 32 stud on the back of the alternator Turning on headlights and heater blower motor and various accesso ries while the car is idling will provide a sufficient amperage load WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS DEFINITELY CAN T DO TO MY ALTERNATOR THAT COULD DO TO MY GENERATOR NONE of the troubleshooting tests that you performed on a DC charging system genera tor will work on an AC alternator type charging system Here are the most common mistakes in the order of their appearance RUNDLE S RULES 1 Don t ever try to polarize an alternator Do not
18. ng frame The three diodes mounted in the heat sink form what is called a rectifier bridge The stator is in turn connected to the three studs on the rectifier bridge to form a complete electrical circuit A condenser is also mounted into the slip ring housing to protect the rectifier bridge and diode trio from high voltages As an added benefit the condenser also suppresses engine noise created by the alternator to the radio LET S COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES Now that we know how an alternator produces current and how that current is changed to DC current from AC let s compare the alternator to a regular genera tor The alternator uses one large field coil that is located on the rotor shaft This means the field coils will spin along 7 with the rotor shaft In contract the field coils in a generator p are attached to the housing of the generator and are station ary The stator windings in an alternator are attached to the stator frame and carry the output current They perform the same job as the segments on the armature of the gen erator The brushes in the alternator are connected in series with the field coil and carry only a low voltage In contract the brushes in a generator carry the total output from the generator The low current carried by the 2 Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators LOAD HIGH CURRENT oom Ti T E alternator brushes greatly extends their life over that of t
19. rns a spinning magnetic field is created The stator assembly is made up of a laminated iron frame and three output windings which are wound to the slots of the frame The stator assembly is placed between two stationary end frames or housing that house the rotor and other assemblies The rotor assembly fits inside of the stator assembly A small air gap is left between the rotor poles and stator laminations As the rotor spins the alternate north and south poles pass each loop in the stator windings causing current to be developed in the windings Since the stator has both north and south poles spinning alter nately a magnetic field is created that causes the current to flow first in one direction then in the other This flow of current in two different directions is called alternating current or AC current This is the same kind of current that is used inside your house and shop But our battery and accessories require only direct current or DC current So we have to change the AC current into DC current That is done using what are called diodes A diode is a simple one way electri cal valve that lets current flow in one direction only An alternator will use six diodes to reverse the current flow Three will be negative diodes mounted in the slip ring end of the alternator housing These three diodes are often called the diode trio There will also be three positive diodes mounted into a heat sink that will be insulated from the slip ri
20. st to the ignition switch they could isolate that post from the rest of the ignition switch This prevented the feedback from the alternator from keeping the vehicle running after the ignition key was turned off The DA plug on the other hand is a special wiring harness that DA Plug allows the car to be started and stopped using the original style of igni tion switch They are standard on Firth Avenue s alternators and are available separately They are designed to work with any GM internal regulated alternator built between 1973 and 1985 The DA plugs will work with both 6 and 12 volt applications TIME SAVING TIP When shopping for an alternator look at the specifications carefully Especially on many high amp output alternators 80 amps the output curve will show that the high output is only produced when the alternator is spinning at high rpm highway speeds In many cases these high output alternators will produce less current at idle and through the mid range than a standard lower output alternator If your application is going to require a high amp alternator be sure the output will occur when you need it Also watch the cooling fans on the front of the alternator The fan on the front of an alternator is designed to draw outside air through the alternator to cool the internal components It is quite common when installing an alterna tor on an older vehicle to have the alternator rotating in the opposite direction for which it was
21. upposed to perform The rotor assembly is much like the physical arrangement of the armature inside of the generator It is made up of field windings composed of two iron segments with interlacing fingers called poles The rotor shaft itself and two slip rings When all of these parts are assembled DRIVE END FRAME together it is called a rotor assembly The rotor res ROTOR ASSEMBLY shaft rides inside of the alternator housing on two sealed bearings as opposed to the bronze or brass bushings used in most generators The two slip rings are mounted to the rotor shaft and are what the brushes ride on This is similar to the commutator end of the armature shaft The slip rings mounted to the rotor shaft are at STATOR ASSEMBLY tached to the leads from the field coils When the ignition switch is first turned on SLIP RING EMD FRAME current from the battery passes through one brush then through one slip ring to the field coil After The parts of an alternator charging system leaving the field coil the current flows to the other slip ring and brush before returning to the battery via the system ground This flow of current and the path it takes is call field current Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators When the battery current flow through the field coil a magnetic field is formed with a north magnetic pole in half of the rotor segments and a south magnetic pole in the other half of the seg ments As the rotor tu
22. utput voltage The third way and the most expensive way is to build the alternator from scratch as a true 6 volt alternator By doing this the output will be correct Excess heat will not be developed and the alternator will be reliable A company called Fifth Avenue Antique Auto Parts located at 415 Court Street Clay Center KS 67432 builds just such an alternator Fifth Avenue s 6 volt alternator has an output of 60 amps at 7 5 volts The solid state regulator is built right inside of the alternator The participants in the Great American Race use these alterna tors You can call this company direct for more information or to find out who your local dealer is This company also builds what is called a DA plug This is necessary when you install an alternator on a vehicle that originally had a generator type charging system Most antique vehicles prior to 1963 used what is called a knife type ignition switch which had only two positions off and on Welcome to the Modern Age Alternators Because an alternator has an output at idle and low rpm whereas the generator did not when the ignition key was turned off the electrical current still traveled back wards through the ignition circuit to the coil and kept the car running Maybe this has already happened to you Well it happened to the car manufacturers also so to overcome that they introduced the accessory type ignition switch By adding a third accessory po
23. volt model not only will your voltage be reduced by 50 percent but your amperage output will also be reduced by 50 percent Thirty amps maximum means only 16 amps at idle This is nearly as bad as your alternator you re trying to replace Not much of an improvement This style can be identified by a load test If you see one of these installed turn the headlights and the heater blower on high while the car is idling This will cause the amp gauge to read discharge because you have created a 20 amp load and are exceeding the alternator s output at idle Also check the voltage at the back of the alternator This style will typically produce 6 5 to 6 8 volts maximum at a fast idle and no load The next common style you will encounter will be a converted 12 volt alternator These will look just like a regular 12 volt alternator except that they will have a small box mounted to the back of the alternator s case This box works just like a voltage drop to create resistance as a way of reduc ing the voltage Again the amperage output is also reduced In addition a bad side effect of this method is the excess heat created through the resistance created to lower the voltage Excess heat will shorten the lifespan of the alternator because of the extra stress placed on the internal parts Some times you will see a small screw on the top of the metal plastic box mounted on the back of the alter nator This screw is to allow you to fine tune the o
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