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1. VERTICAL x CA IMPORTANT Flue must always slope at least Ws back to the boiler U WS RY N N HORIZONTAL LEFT OR RIGHT 45 LEFT OR RIGHT LOGIC CODE COMBI ES IDEAL PART NO High level flue outlet kit 208178 Im x 6Omm extension pipe with bracket 203228 90 elbow 205229 45 elbow pair 203230 If additional elbows to those supplied in the High Level Flue Outlet kit are used deduct the following resistances metres from the maximum boiler flue length LOGIC ALL MODELS 90 elbow 45 elbow pair METRES 1 4 1 23 deal arua i 5 CONTACT US Should you need assistance from any of our specialist teams they are on hand to help you 7 days a week 364 days a year CUSTOMER SERVICE Tel 01482 498660 SALES ORDERS AND ENQUIRIES Tel 0844 498056 TECHNICAL HELP Tel 01482 498663 IDEAL GENUINE PARTS Tel 01482 498665 MAIN RECEPTION Tel 01482 492251 GREAT BOILERS FROM GREAT BRITAIN Ideal Boilers PO Box 103 National Avenue Kingston upon Hull East Yorkshire HU5 4JN T 01482 49225 WWW IDEALBOILERS COM
2. NEW BUILD YOUR COMPLETE SOLUTION IDEAL BOILER STELRAD CYLINDER SOLAR RADIATOR PANEL FO FREE DESIGN DESIGN 364 DAYS STAGE SAP SERVICE A YEAR USUALLY 50 AVAVA DB 1 i 1 NSO 02 WELCOME TO FIRST CLASS OUR AWARD WINNING BOILERS GO THROUGH 200 QUALITY CHECKS BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE FACTORY AND ARE AVAILABLE WITH A RANGE OF FLEXIBLE WARRANTY OPTIONS YOU CAN REST ASSURED RELIABILITY IS GUARANTEED WHEN YOU PARTNER WITH IDEAL E Witiy 2 Good Housekeeping b K 20 FOR ENTERPRISE CONTENTS 04 O6 14 22 SO 8 46 S10 52 54 US THE IDEAL PRODUCT RANGE Ole Ten ee 45 LOGIC SYSTEM LOGIC HEAT LOGIC CODE COMBI ES LOGIC COMBI ES CONTROLS LPG CONVERSION KITS FLUE SITING FLUEING OPTIONS CONTACT IDEAL 03 Representing the next generation in heating design the Logic range of boilers offers state of the art technology in a practical compact unit that fits easily into any standard kitchen cupboard Available in a range of outputs the Logic range comes complete with a flexible parts and labour warranty package yo Witiy READER RECOMMENDED o5 LOGIC COMBI Designed to be installed with minimal fuss LOGIC SYSTEM A simple and reliable solution for a wide variety of sealed domestic systems LOGIC HEAT ONLY Highly efficient and easy to operate thanks to straightforward controls featuring a clear digital display LOGI
3. e Simple diverter valve design e Two stage flame sensing for greater reliability e Latest generation Honeywell gas valve e ErP compliant THE QUEEN S AWARDS FOR ENTERPRISE Available with 24 amp 30 kW models Available to download from www idealboilers com 08 CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS 2 5 from case Flue terminal Note The minimum front clearance when built in to a cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm overall clearance with the cupboard door open is DIMENSIONS required for servicing Height 700mm Width 395mm Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced to Depth 278mm 5mm However 100mm is required for servicing FLUE LENGTHS COMBI 24 COMBI 30 COMBI 35 Max horizontal 9m 8m 6m Max vertical 7 5m Powered vertical 22m TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION 09 COMBI 24 COMBI 30 COMBI 35 Weight packaged kg S65 36 5 S65 Max installation weight kg 31 8 32 32 CH output kW min max S p 70 C 4 8 24 2 6 1 24 2 ZIE 2452 CH output kW min max g g 40 C 5 1 25 6 6 4 25 6 7 5 25 6 DHW output kW max PAT YOS 555 DHW flow rate l min 35 C rise 9 9 12 4 14 5 SEDBUK rating 2005 91 91 1 91 SEDBUK rating 2009 89 0 89 0 88 9 NOx classification CLASS 5 Adjustable to LPG Yes Yes No Condensing boiler Yes Seasonal space heating A efficiency class Rated heat output kW 24 Seasonal space heating 93 Lge ener
4. um jaa ome ar BCC fault Check the correct BCC is fitted for the boiler and securely burner burner inserted into the slot at the front left of the PCB Identified by the label on the BCC If yes then replace the current BCC with a new one correctly labelled for the boiler If it is incorrect turn off the power then insert correctly into PCB after switching power back on restart the boiler Cq p Mw Low water pressure Check system pressure is between 1 amp 1 5bar on the pressure oimne umna gauge If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if Z under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Flow temperature Is the boiler and CH heating system filled and all isolation vales burner purici overheat and radiators open If not then fill and vent the system and open all isolation valves and restart the boiler Check that the pumps are rotating freely and the flow and return have a differential across the boiler in excess of 30 C i No water flow burner burner gt Loy Flame loss 1 Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a supply is present in the property 2 If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances check the gas supply is on at the meter and or pre payment meter has credit If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or al
5. 6 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 7 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 7 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow IDEAL PART NO 208171 2 x 2031530 208169 2x 203150 208171 4 x 203129 2 x 2031350 208169 4 x 203129 2x 203130 208171 6 x 203129 2 x 203130 208169 6x 2035129 2x 203130 208171 7 x 203129 2 x 203130 208169 7 X 205128 2x 203130 MAXIMUM STRAIGHT FLUE LENGTH MM 556 484 4356 35 max length 4m 2x 90 elbow 4284 35 max length 4m 2x 90 elbow 6286 30 max length 6m 2x 90 elbow 6184 30 max length 6m 2x 90 elbow 7000 12 24 models max length 7m 2x 90 elbow 7000 12 24 models max length 7m 2x 90 elbow FLUE Standard horizontal B pack 2 x 45 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 2 x 45 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 5 x extension pack D 2 x 45 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 5 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 7 x extension pack D 2 x 45 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 7 x extension pack D 2 x 45 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 8 x extension pack D 2 x 45 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 8 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow IDEAL PART NO 208171 203131 208169 ZOS1S 208171 5 x 203129 203131 208169 SPORIS 203151 208171 7 xX 203129 203131 208169 7 X 2O28 203151 208171 8 x
6. 7 X 203128 203130 208171 8 x 203129 203130 208169 X 2035129 203130 55 HORIZONTAL FLUE WITH 1X 90 ELBOW NOTE Lengths are sum of all straight lengths between outside edge of turret to outside wall face Numbers of extension D packs give flexibility of lengths of straight at either side of elbow Where extension D packs are cut to length flared end connector must be retained MAXIMUM STRAIGHT FLUE LENGTH MM 556 484 5306 35 max length 5m 1x 90 elbow 5234 35 max length 5m 1x 90 elbow 7236 30 max length 7m 1x 90 elbow 7134 30 max length 7m 1x 90 elbow 8000 12 24 models max length 8m 1x 90 elbow 8000 12 24 models max length 8m 1x 90 elbow 56 FLUEING OPTIONS LOGIC COMBI CES HEAT amp SYSTEM HORIZONTAL FLUE WITH 2 X 90 ELBOW NOTE Lengths are sum of all straight lengths between outside edge of turret to outside wall face Numbers of extension D packs give flexibility of lengths of straight at either side of elbow Where extension D packs are cut to length flared end connector must be retained FLUE Standard horizontal B pack 2 x 90 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 2 x 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 4 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 4 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 6 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow Telescopic B pack flue
7. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer CRGII Contact a qualified electrician or your electricty provider Unconfigured PCB Please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer C RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 37 FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER DESCRIPTION ACTION Boiler resets in 1 Turn power off and on at the fused spur burner burner 15 minutes 2 If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII p E False flame lockout Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please _ contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe m Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner PS I BCC activation fault Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner
8. 203129 203131 208169 X ZOSI2S 205151 57 HORIZONTAL FLUE WITH 2 X 45 ELBOW NOTE Lengths are sum of all straight lengths between outside edge of turret to outside wall face Numbers of extension D packs give flexibility of lengths of straight at either side of elbow Where extension D packs are cut to length flared end connector must be retained MAXIMUM STRAIGHT FLUE LENGTH MM 556 484 5306 35 max length 4 8m 2 x 45 elbow 5234 35 max length 4 8m 2 x 45 elbow 7236 30 max length 6 8m 2 x 45 elbow 7134 30 max length 6 8m 2 x 45 elbow 7800 12 24 models max length 7 8m 2 x 45 elbow 7800 12 24 models max length 7 8m 2 x 45 elbow 58 FLUEING OPTIONS LOGIC COMBI CES HEAT amp SYSTEM ROOF FLUE SYSTEM IDEAL MAXIMUM STRAIGHT FLUE PART NO FLUE LENGTH MM Roof flue kit 211039 Weather collar 152258 152259 1325 Roof flue kit 211039 7 x max extension pack D 7 x 203129 Weather collar 152258 152259 7500 NOTE 152258 universal weather collar suits any roof pitch 152259 flat roof weather collar ROOF FLUE SYSTEM WITH 2 X 45 ELBOW FLUE IDEAL MAXIMUM STRAIGHT PART NO FLUE LENGTH MM Roof flue kit 211039 6 x max extension pack D 6 x 203129 6300 2 x 45 elbow 203131 Weather collar 152258 152259 NOTE 152258 universal weather collar suits any roof pitch 152259 flat roof weather collar 59 P
9. 205990 206151 LOGIC HEAT ONLY IDEAL PART NO High level outlet kit 55 80 205989 For 1m extension and elbows use standard parts 203228 9 amp 30 FLUEING OPTIONS LOGIC CODE COMBI ES FLUE Standard horizontal B pack Standard horizontal B pack 6 x extension pack D Standard horizontal B pack 8 x extension pack D Standard horizontal B pack 9 x extension pack D IDEAL PART NO 208171 208171 6 x 203129 208171 8 x 203129 208171 ox 2035129 67 HORIZONTAL CONCENTRIC 100MM DIAMETER NOTE Lengths are from outside edge of turret to outside wall face Where extension D Packs are cut to length flared end connector must be retained MAXIMUM STRAIGHT FLUE LENGTH MM 556 6256 38 max length 6m 8186 33 max length 8m 9000 26 models 68 FLUEING OPTIONS LOGIC CODE COMBI ES HORIZONTAL FLUE WITH 1X 90 ELBOW NOTE Lengths are sum of all straight lengths between outside edge of turret to outside wall face Numbers of extension D packs give flexibility of lengths of straight at either side of elbow Where extension D packs are cut to length flared end connector must be retained FLUE Standard horizontal B pack 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 5 x extension pack D 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 7 x extension pack D 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 8 x extension pack D 90 elbow IDEAL PART NO 208171 20
10. COMBI ES 24 COMBI ES 30 COMBI ES 35 Max horizontal 9m 8m 6m Max vertical 7 5m Powered vertical 22m 41 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION COMBI ES 24 COMBI ES 30 COMBI ES 35 Weight packaged kg S77 37 8 38 Max installation weight kg 32 7 32 8 55 CH output kW min max g g E 70 C 4 8 24 2 6 1 24 2 7 242 CH output kW min max g g g 40 C 51 25 6 6 4 25 6 7 5 25 6 DHW output kW max 24 2 350 3 559 DHW flow rate l min 35 C rise 9 9 12 4 14 5 SEDBUK rating 2005 91 91 1 91 SEDBUK rating 2009 89 0 89 0 88 9 NOx classification CLASS S5 Adjustable to LPG No Yes No Condensing boiler Yes Seasonal space heating A efficiency class Rated heat output kW 24 Seasonal space heating 93 ai E energy efficiency nson Sound power level indoors Lwa dB i 2 a Water heating energy A efficiency class Available flue extensions 0 5m 1m and 2m Multiple flue kits available Each 90 elbow used is at the expense of 1000mm of straight flue run and each 45 elbow is used at the expense of 600mm of straight flue run t Typical combined primary and secondary length See installation instructions for more details Note The Flue Deflector Kit is used at the expense of 1000mm of straight flue run 42 TROUBLESHOOTING POINTS FOR THE NO HOT WATER BOILER USER Note n ine with our current Check the mains switch fused spur warranty policy we would ask that is turned on and ensure switch mode you check throug
11. CRGII 35 NO HOT WATER OR CENTRAL HEATING Check the fused spur is turned on and ensure switch mode control knob D Control Panels 47 is in the winter position Does the boiler have a display showing on the front control panel See boiler Operation Modes and Fault Codes section Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII 36 OPERATIONS MODE DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER tes a ie mm hee le burner burner burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water demand The boiler has a call for central heating but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler has a call for hot water but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler is operating in central heating mode The boiler is operating in hot water mode The boiler is operating in frost mode FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER burner burner burner burner wy q burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION Outside sensor failure Low mains voltage Unconfigured PCB No water flow thermistor ACTION Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contactlideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period
12. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Is the boiler and CH heating system filled and all isolation vales and radiators open If not then fill and vent the system and open all isolation valves and restart the boiler Check that the pumps are rotating freely and the flow and return have a differential across the boiler in excess of 30 C 1 Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a supply is present in the property 2 If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances check the gas supply is on at the meter and or pre payment meter has credit If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE con
13. Note The minimum front clearance when built in to a cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm overall clearance with the cupboard door open is required for servicing DIMENSIONS Height 7OOmm Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced Width 395mm to 5mm However 100mm is required for servicing Depth 278mm Rear flue option top clearance 100mm FLUE LENGTHS HEAT 12 HEAT 15 HEAT 18 Max horizontal 9m Max vertical 7 5m Powered vertical 22m 25 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION HEAT 12 HEAT 15 HEAT 18 HEAT 24 HEAT 30 Weight packaged kg 28 5 Max installation weight kg 22 8 CH output KW min max 70 C 4 8 12 0 4 8 15 0 4 8 18 0 4 8 24 2 61 303 To kW min max 51 130 51 159 51 191 51 256 6 4 31 0 DHW output kW max n a Sey rate min ee SEDBUK rating 2005 91 2 91 1 91 91 91 1 SEDBUK rating 2009 89 4 89 3 89 2 89 5 89 6 NOx classification CLASS 5 Adjustable to LPG No No No Yes Yes Condensing boiler Yes Seasonal space heating A efficiency class Rated heat output kW 2 15 18 24 30 Seasonal space heating 92 92 92 93 93 energy efficiency nson Sound power level indoors Lwa dB 519 A 42 45 45 Water heating energy n a efficiency class HEAT 24 HEAT 30 Multiple flue kits available 8m 26 TROUBLESHOOTING POINTS FOR THE BOILER USER Note n ine with our current warranty policy we would ask that you check through the following guide to identify any problems ex
14. a Registered Gas Installer RGII Check the correct BCC is fitted for the boiler and securely inserted into the slot at the front left of the PCB Identified by the label on the BCC If yes then replace the current BCC with a new one correctly labelled for the boiler If it is incorrect turn off the power then insert correctly into PCB after switching power back on restart the boiler Check system pressure is between 1 amp 1 5bar on the pressure gauge If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer C RGII Is the boiler and CH heating system filled and all isolation vales and radiators open If not then fill and vent the system and open all isolation valves and restart the boiler Check that the pumps are rotating freely and the flow and return have a differential across the boiler in excess of 30 C 1 Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a supply is present in the property 2 If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances check the gas supply is on at the meter and or pre payment meter has credit If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer C RGII Reset the appliance if t
15. either a central heating call or hot water demand The boiler has a call for central heating hot water but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler is operating for central heating hot water 20 FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER ES Da z rn burner burner burner burner burner burner burner burner aay am wn a lo N a burner burner burner burner burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION Boiler chip card BECS not fitted Outside sensor failure Low mains voltage PCB fault Boiler resets in 15 minutes False flame lockout BCC activation fault BCC fault ACTION Please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Contact a qualified electrician or your electricity provider PCB Fault Please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 1 Turn power off and on at the fused spur 2 If the boiler fails to operate please con
16. on the pressure gauge If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 1 Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a supply is present in the property 2 If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances check the gas supply is on at the meter and or pre payment meter has credit If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer CRGII 1 Turn power off and on at the fused spur 2 If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 30 LOGIC CODE COMBI ES 26 3 38 HIGH EFFICIENCY COMBINATION BOILERS Designed to take the headache out of meeting Building Regulations the Logic Code Combi ES from Ideal is a simple one box solution capable of supporting up to level 4 of the Code for Sustainable homes idea
17. the programmer are as you require and adjust if necessary Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas See boiler Operation Modes and Installer CRGII Fault Codes section If O is displayed then contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer RGID 44 OPERATIONS MODE DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER tes a ie mm jma mm jae le burner burner burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water demand The boiler has a call for central heating but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler has a call for hot water but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler is operating in central heating mode The boiler is operating in hot water mode The boiler is operating in frost mode FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER E Da burner burner burner burner burner Lol burner burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION Outside sensor failure Low mains voltage Unconfigured PCB Boiler resets in 15 minutes False flame lockout ACTION Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Regis
18. the Ideal LPG propane conversion kit provides a simple and robust gas conversion solution With kits available inclusive of natural gas to LPG kits and LPG to natural gas kits these quick to install accessories provide a simple and pragmatic solution without the need for products to be adjusted Each kit contains specific components for each required boiler type FEATURES e Available for all product types combi heat amp system e Suitable for most property sizes e Fast amp simple conversion with preset gas valve for no product adjustment APPLICABLE MODELS e Logic Code Combi ES 38 e Logic Combi 24 amp 30 Logic Combi ES 30 e Logic Heat 24 amp 30 e Logic System 24 amp 30 SPECIFICATION BOILER MODEL COMBI Min output kW 8 0 Max output kW 24 3 Max DHW output kW SOS NG LPG CONVERSION KIT E G CODE GeMBIESSS LOGIC CODE COMBI 533 LOGIC CODE COMBI ES38 LOGIC CODE COMBI ES38 LOGIC COMBI 24 LOGIC COMBI 30 LOGIC COMBI 30 LOGIC COMBI ES30 LOGIC COMBI ES30 LOGIC HEAT 24 LOGIC HEAT 30 LOGIC HEAT 30 LOGIC SYSTEM 50 LOGIC SYSTEM 30 CODE em 24 2 Sow PRODUCT CODE 210391 211381 210394 211382 22S 207649 211370 208433 2157S 212114 207651 211372 207935 211374 HEAT SYSTEM 8 0 8 0 30 3 350 3 N A N A LPG NG CONVERSION KIT LOGIC CODE COMBIIESSS LOGIC CODE COMBI ES33 LOGIC CODE COMBIES3ce LOGIC CODE COMBI ES38 LOGIC COMBI 24 LOGIC COMBI 30 LOGI
19. 31530 208171 SPOKI ZS 2031530 208171 7 x 203129 2031530 208171 X 203129 ZOS50 MAXIMUM STRAIGHT FLUE LENGTH MM 556 5306 38 max length 5m 1x 90 elbow 7236 33 max length 7m 1x 90 elbow 8000 26 models max length 8m 1x 90 elbow FLUE Standard horizontal B pack 2 x 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 4 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 6 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 7 x extension pack D 2 x 90 elbow IDEAL PART NO 208171 2 x 203130 208171 4 x 203129 2 X 2035150 208171 6 x 203129 2 x 203130 208171 7 x 203129 Zx 205150 69 HORIZONTAL FLUE WITH 2 X 90 ELBOW NOTE Lengths are sum of all straight lengths between outside edge of turret to outside wall face Numbers of extension D packs give flexibility of lengths of straight at either side of elbow Where extension D packs are cut to length flared end connector must be retained MAXIMUM STRAIGHT FLUE LENGTH MM 556 4356 38 max length 4m 2x 90 elbow 6286 33 max length 6m 2x 90 elbow 7000 26 models max length 7m 2x 90 elbow 70 FLUEING OPTIONS LOGIC CODE COMBI ES HORIZONTAL FLUE WITH 2 X 45 ELBOW NOTE Lengths are sum of all straight lengths between outside edge of turret to outside wall face Numbers of extension D packs give flexibility of lengths of strai
20. C CODE COMBI ES A simple one box solution capable of supporting up to level 4 of the code for sustainable homes with built in flue gas heat recovery LOGIC COMBI ES A high efficiency combination boiler particularly beneficial for small social new build properties ATi i Fa s5 J Logg ji 06 LOGIC COMBI 24 50 55 HIGH EFFICIENCY COMBINATION BOILERS Designed to be installed with the minimum of fuss Logic appliances offer a speedy installation lge at ma O O O ar LO N QO N lt j N 07 FEATURES gt lt A COMPACT DIGITAL FROST FLUE LPG NOx DISPLAY PROTECTION VARIANTS CONVERSION CLASS 5 SPECIFICATION e Pre heat function EASY TO INSTALL e 75mm deep translucent condensate e Compact cupboard fit siphon e Fast fix flues e Clear alpha numeric display e Wide range of additional flueing options e Fully modulating operation to low e Low lift weight 32kg outputs e Easy access to PRV and AAV e Automatic bypass e Preformed copper tails e Four optional language user e Pre wired mains lead 2m instructions e Universal condensate connection e Visually impaired user fascia option e Stand off kit including piping option e Compatible with a range of additional RELIABLE controls e Energy Saving Trust endorsed product inc weather compensation e Boiler frost protection e LPG conversion kit available for 24 kW e Built in easy to use filling loop amp 30 kW boilers
21. C COMBI 30 LOGIC COMBI ES30 EOGIC COMBITESS LOGIC HEAT 24 LOGIC HEAT 30 LOGIC HEAT 30 LOGIE SYSiEM 3 LOGIC SYSTEM 30 NATURAL GAS TO LPG KIT LIP EMTS EACH KIT COMPRISES e Gas valve preset operation e Burner injector e BCC boiler chip card e Data plate labels e Instructions Use of the preset gas valve ensures the safety feature of anon adjustable gas valve is retained during conversion i Two data plate labels are provided in the kits inclusive of a new data plate providing LPG details and a label to retain boiler serial number identity 51 PRODUCT CODE 1773570 177527 177371 177528 177868 176657 177514 176823 S23 177867 176659 177516 176661 177518 52 FLUE SITING There are a substantial number of flueing options available with the Ideal ranges giving excellent siting flexibility for almost all applications The range of options include standard and telescopic flues as well as roof flue and powered vertical flue options To ensure siting issues are kept to a minimum High Level Flue Outlet kit options and Flue Deflector kits are available Minimum dimensions of flue terminal positions FLUE TERMINAL POSITION 1 Directly below above or alongside an opening window air vent or other ventilation opening 2 Below guttering drain pipes or soil pipes BS5440 1 2008 3 Below eaves BS5440 1 2008 4 Below balconies or car port roof BS5440 1 2008 5 Fro
22. ILERS The Logic system range of appliances from Ideal provide a simple and reliable solution for a wide variety of sealed domestic systems ideal L gt U O O ar N in N ee LO FEATURES COMPACT DIGITAL FROST DISPLAY PROTECTION SPECIFICATION e Digital display and simple diagnostics e Fully modulating operation down to 4 8 kW e Weather compensation kit option RELIABLE e Energy Saving Trust endorsed product e Boiler frost protection e Built in condensate trap e Latest generation Honeywell gas valve e ErP compliant e Two stage flame sensing for better reliability 15 FLUE LPG NOx VARIANTS CONVERSION CLASS 5 EASY TO INSTALL e Compact cupboard fit e Wide range of flueing options e Concealed pipe connections e Low lift weight 28kg t e Preformed copper tails e LPG Conversion kit available for 24 kW amp 30 kW boilers e Stand off kit and pre pipe options e Pre wired mains lead e Easy Access to PRV and AAV e Universal condensate connection THE QUEEN S AWARDS FOR ENTERPRISE 30 kW only 6 1 kW Available with 24 amp 30 kW models t Weight with front panel removed 16 CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS DIMENSIONS Height 7OOmm Width 395mm Depth 278mm FLUE LENGTHS Max horizontal Max vertical Powered vertical terminal Note The minimum front clearance when built in to a cup
23. Ideal part no 203129 Weather collar universal 100mm Ideal part no 152258 Horizontal flue terminal 1000mm long Ideal part no 208174 Flue vertical connector Ideal part no 208175 Weather collar flat roof 100mm Ideal part no 152259 Flue elbow 90 kit 60 100 packaged W Ideal part no 203130 Powered vertical flue kit 100mm Ideal part no 203134 Flue finishing kit Ideal part no 155988 Roof flue kit inc vertical connector Ideal part no 211039 Secondary flue extension O00x80mm pair Ideal part no 203142 Condensate pump kit Ideal part no 159991 1 Combi amp System only for Heat models 206153 Combi only 3 Logic Combi amp System only Powered flue kit Ideal part no 203136 Flue extension 0 5m or 2m Ideal part no 0 5m 211037 2m 211038 Terminal wall plate RS replacement kit Ideal part no 211328 Combi amp System 206384 Heat Rear flue outlet kit 55 80 O Ideal part no 205990 Stand off kit Ideal part no 211103 Pressure gauge extension kit OO Ideal part no 206712 for System models only 211330 61 Flue finishing kit 55 80 Ideal part no 206151 Stand off kit 2 INC piping Ideal part no 211101 Weather compensation kit Ideal part no 211326 Combi 211332 Heat amp System 62 FLUEING amp INSTALLATION ACCESSORIES LOGIC COMBI CES HEAT am
24. MM Powered vertical flue kit 203136 Vertical connector 208175 Primary and Powered vertical flue terminal 203134 secondary flue Weather collar 152258 152259 combined maximum Extension pack D 203129 22mm Secondary flue extension pipet 203142 NOTE Allows the boiler to be sited in a position where no access to an outside wall is available Permits the concentric flue to run vertically from the top of the boiler and obtain air supply within the roof space the secondary flue continuing to the external flue terminal Offset applications are permissible though the maximum length is reduced 152258 universal weather collar suits any roof pitch 152259 flat roof weather collar Where extension D packs are cut to length the flared end connector must be retained t Secondary flue extension pipes are available in 0 5 1 and 2 metre lengths See installation instructions for maximum primary and maximum secondary flue lengths FLUEING ACCESSORIES LOGIC CODE COMBI ES Telescopic B pack flue Ideal part no 208169 Flue elbow 45 kit 60 100 packaged pair Ideal part no 203131 Flue deflector Ideal part no 208176 Horizontal flue terminal 600mm long Ideal part no 208171 Flue extension 1000mm Pack D il Ideal part no 203129 Weather collar universal 100mm Ideal part no 152258 Horizontal flue terminal 1000mm long Ideal part
25. NO 204915 205126 75 76 FLUEING ACCESSORIES LOGIC CODE COMBI ES Soffit kit Ideal part no 211502 Raised horizontal flue outlet kit NOTE A 1 metre vertical pipe is supplied as standard Both horizontal and vertical lengths can be extended using extension pack D Refer to installation instructions for maximum lengths Ideal part no 208290 77 ACCESSORIES HIGH LEVEL FLUE OUTLET KIT These easy to install kits allow the boiler flue outlet to be extended external to the building upwards to provide a flue exit at high level overcoming problems associated with plume emission The kit can be simply fitted retrofitted if necessary An external 60mm diameter flue leads from the boiler terminal which includes a 90 elbow at the flue exit to terminate with a 90 elbow complete with grille Push fit one metre extension pipes are used as required and the fixing clips supplied support the system from the wall Both 90 and 45 elbows are available to provide routing options THE KIT COMPRISES Flue elbow 1 off 60mm flue exit elbow 1 off 60mm horizontal flue exit 1 off 60mm x 500mm flue outlet Extension pipe 1 off This kit is specified for use with the normal standard B pack The standard terminal nose is replaced with the high level terminal Diagram representative only a X SSS i oe a AN AAS 1 X
26. OWERED VERTICAL FLUE SYSTEM FLUE IDEAL MAXIMUM PART NO STRAIGHT FLUE LENGTH MM Powered vertical flue kit 203136 Vertical connector 208175 Primary and Powered vertical flue terminal 203134 secondary flue Weather collar 152258 152259 combined maximum Extension pack D 203129 22mm Secondary flue extension pipet 203142 NOTE Allows the boiler to be sited in a position where no access to an outside wall is available Permits the concentric flue to run vertically from the top of the boiler and obtain air supply within the roof space the secondary flue continuing to the external flue terminal Offset applications are permissible though the maximum length is reduced 152258 universal weather collar suits any roof pitch 152259 flat roof weather collar Where extension D packs are cut to length the flared end connector must be retained t Secondary flue extension pipes are available in 0 5 1 and 2 metre lengths See installation instructions for maximum primary and maximum secondary flue lengths 60 FLUEING amp INSTALLATION ACCESSORIES LOGIC COMBI CES HEAT amp SYSTEM Telescopic B pack flue Ideal part no 208169 Flue elbow 45 kit 60 100 packaged pair Ideal part no 203131 Flue deflector Ideal part no 208176 Horizontal flue terminal 600mm long Ideal part no 208171 Flue extension 1000mm Pack D Li
27. board is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm overall clearance with the cupboard door open is required for servicing Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced to 5mm However 100mm is required for servicing SYSTEM 15 SYSTEM 18 7 5M PPNA 17 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION Weight packaged kg Max installation weight kg CH output KW min max 70 C CH output KW min max 40 C DHW output kW max DHW flow rate l min 35 C rise SEDBUK rating 2005 SEDBUK rating 2009 NOx classification Adjustable to LPG Condensing boiler Seasonal space heating efficiency class Rated heat output kW Seasonal space heating energy efficiency nson Sound power level indoors Lwa dB Water heating energy efficiency class SYSTEM 24 9m 7 5M 22m SYSTEM 15 SYSTEM 18 SYSTEM 24 SYSTEM 30 34 4 28 4 8 15 0 4 8 18 0 4 8 24 2 6 1 30 3 5 1 15 9 5 1 19 1 5 1 25 6 6 4 31 0 n a n a 91 1 91 91 91 1 89 3 89 2 89 5 89 6 CLASS 5 No No Yes Yes Yes A 15 18 24 30 93 95 93 935 Al 42 45 45 n a SYSTEM 30 Multiple flue kits available 8m 18 TROUBLESHOOTING POINTS FOR THE BOILER USER NO HOT WATER Note n ine with our current warranty policy we would ask that you check through the following guide to identify any problems external to the boiler prior to reguesting a service engineers visit Should the problem be found to be other than with the appliance we reserve the r
28. burner burner contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Cc E Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Outside sensor Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please burner burner failure contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe T E Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Low mains voltage Contact a qualified electrician or your electricity provider burner burner p J PCB fault Please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe burner burner Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE E o contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Flow return Please contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer In IE contact a burner burner reversed Registered Gas Installer RGII M J No water flow Please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe burner burner Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE Cc contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER DESCRIPTION burner ete burner ER burner es burner C a My Flow temperature burner overheat or unconfigured PCB Ignition lockout burner Boiler resets in burner 15 minutes False flame lockout burner 29 ACTION Check system pressure is between 1 amp 1 5bar
29. d continuous period The room thermostat can be freestanding or wallmounted and has a compact design with LCD display and simple symbols to indicate the RF ELECTRONIC COML PROGRAMMABLE THERMOSTAT Part No 204789 Wireless radio frequency RF digital timer and room thermostat providing heating control 7 day plain text operating and diagnostics display Automatic summer winter time update COMBI HEAT ONLY amp SYSTEM CONTROLS WEATHER COMPENSATION OUTDOOR SENSOR Part No 211326 combi models only Part No 211332 heat only and system models The Logic and Logic Code Combi ES ranges provide weather compensation when fitted with an outdoor sensor which is available as an optional accessory Weather compensation works by measuring the temperature outside the home and adjusting the temperature or flow of the radiators inside If the weather is particularly cold outside the outdoor sensor 1 will communicate with the boiler intelligently to increase the radiator temperature This process alSo works in reverse as the outdoor temperature increases the flow to the radiators too will decrease This process allows the system to operate more efficiently by only heating to the minimum temperature necessary and also preventing spikes in heating activity 50 LPG CONVERSION KITS Designed for use with Logic combi heat and system 24 amp 30 kW boilers combi ES 30 kW only and the new Code Combi ES 38 kW
30. e Complete range of Logic combination EASY TO INSTALL boilers for social new build developers Compact cupboard fit e Achieves optimum SAP and DER ratings Fast fix flues for standard combination boiler usage Wide range of additional flueing e 75mm deep translucent condensate options siphon e Low lift weight 33kg e Fully modulating operation to low e Easy access to PRV and AAV outputs e Preformed copper tails e Automatic bypass e Pre wired mains lead 2m e Universal condensate connection RELIABLE e Stand off kit including piping option e Energy Saving Trust endorsed product Compatible with a range of additional e Boiler frost protection controls inc weather compensation e Built in easy to use filling loop e LPG conversion kit available for e Simple diverter valve design 30 kW boilers e Two stage flame sensing for greater reliability e Latest generation Honeywell gas valve e ErP compliant THE QUEEN S AWARDS FOR ENTERPRISE Available with 30 kW model 40 CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS 2 5 from case Note The minimum front clearance when built in to a cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm overall clearance with the cupboard door open is required DIMENSIONS for servicing Height 700mm Width 395mm Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced to Depth 278mm 5mm However 100mm is required for servicing FLUE LENGTHS
31. eer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII NO CENTRAL HEATING Check the mains switch fused spur is turned on and ensure switch mode control knob D Control Panels 46 is in the winter position Check the programmer Cinternal or external to the boiler is in an ON position and the room thermostat is turned up Does the boiler operate and provide central heating Check the time settings on the programmer are as you require and adjust if necessary See boiler Operation Modes and Fault Codes section If O is displayed then contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII NO NO HOT WATER OR CENTRAL HEATING Check the fused spur is turned on and ensure switch mode control knob D Control Panels 46 is in the winter position Does the boiler have a display showing on the front control panel See boiler Operation Modes and Fault Codes section Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII 12 OPERATIONS MODE DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER jme m La jae ae SA mi burner burner burner burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water demand The boiler has a call for central heating but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler has a cal
32. erature is below 5 C In normal operation the control unit E will show the following codes If the pressure is seen to fall below the original installation pressure of 1 2 bar over a period of time then a water leak may be indicated In this event conduct the re pressurising procedure as shown on page 4 of the User Manual LOGIC HEAT 12 15 18 24 0 47 BOILER CONTROLS Temperature Control Mode Control Boiler Status Burner on Indicator Condensate Drain Economy Mode ululo feg p LOGIC COMBI ES LOGIC CODE COMBI ES 24 30 35 26 553 58 boiler WINTER OPERATION COMBI 1 Ensure gas and electric supplies are available and on 5 i e card meters are topped up 2 Ensure boiler thermostat C is on and set 2 3rds of the 6 way round 3 Set room thermostat to desired temperature normally 7 between 20 23 C 4 Control individual room via Thermostatic Radiator Valves 1 Low 2 Low Average 3 Average BOILER CONTROLS Blank DHW Temperature Control CH Temperature Control Mode Control Boiler Status Burner on Indicator Pressure Gauge Condensate Drain Economy Mode x restart LONMOOW LS Control the heating times by using programmer clock and not by switching the boiler on and off Preheat will operate with the preheat switch A set to on For periods of intense cold leave the system on 24 hours a day Switch the room thermostat down to 10 C overnight This wi
33. ff 60mm x 500mm flue outlet Extension pipe 1 off This kit is specified for use with the normal standard B pack The standard terminal nose is replaced with the high level terminal Diagram representative only x IMPORTANT Flue must always slopeat least Ws back to the boiler aN im A A WA S HORIZONTAL VERTICAL LEFT OR RIGHT 45 LEFT OR RIGHT LOGIC ALL MODELS IDEAL PART NO High level flue outlet kit 208178 Logic Heat rear flue outlet 55 80 ONLY high 205989 level flue outlet kit 55 80 Im x 60mm extension pipe with bracket 205228 90 elbow 203229 45 elbow pair 203230 If additional elbows to those supplied in the high level flue outlet kit are used deduct the following resistances metres from the maximum boiler flue length LOGIC ALL MODELS METRES 90 elbow 1 4 45 elbow pair 1 25 66 FLUEING OPTIONS LOGIC HEAT REAR OUTLET FLUE TERMINAL 55 80 80MM FLUE IDEAL MAXIMUM STRAIGHT PART NO FLUE LENGTH MM Rear outlet flue outlet kit 55 80 205990 442 NOTE Length is wall thickness Minimum wall thickness permissible is 115mm No extensions are permitted FLUEING ACCESSORIES Rear outlet flue terminal 55 80 Flue finishing kit 55 80 IDEAL PART NO
34. ght at either side of elbow Where extension D packs are cut to length flared end connector must be retained FLUE IDEAL MAXIMUM STRAIGHT PART NO FLUE LENGTH MM Standard horizontal B pack 208171 556 2 x 45 elbow 203131 Standard horizontal B pack 208171 5306 35 max length 4 8m 5 x extension pack D 5 X 205128 2 x 45 elbow 2 x 45 elbow 205 Standard horizontal B pack 208171 7236 30 max length 6 8m 7 x extension pack D 7 x 203129 2 x 45 elbow 2 x 45 elbow 203131 Standard horizontal B Pack 208171 7800 12 24 models max length 7 8m 8 x extension pack D 8 x 203129 2 x 45 elbow 2 x 45 elbow 203131 ROOF FLUE SYSTEM IDEAL MAXIMUM STRAIGHT FLUE PART NO FLUE LENGTH MM Roof flue kit 211039 Weather collar 152258 152259 1325 Roof flue kit 211039 7 x max extension pack D 7 x 203129 Weather collar 152258 152259 7500 NOTE 152258 universal weather collar suits any roof pitch 152259 flat roof weather collar ROOF FLUE SYSTEM WITH 2 X 45 ELBOW FLUE IDEAL MAXIMUM STRAIGHT PART NO FLUE LENGTH MM Roof flue kit 211039 6 x max extension pack D 6 x 203129 6300 2 x 45 elbow 203131 Weather collar 152258 152259 NOTE 152258 universal weather collar suits any roof pitch 152259 flat roof weather collar 72 FLUEING OPTIONS LOGIC CODE COMBI ES POWERED VERTICAL FLUE SYSTEM FLUE IDEAL MAXIMUM PART NO STRAIGHT FLUE LENGTH
35. gy efficiency nson Sound power level indoors Lwa dB ae a cm Water heating energy A efficiency class Available flue extensions 0 5m Im and 2m Multiple flue kits available Each 90 elbow used is at the expense of 1000mm of straight flue run and each 45 elbow is used at the expense of 600mm of straight flue run t Typical combined primary and secondary length See installation instructions for more details Note The Flue Deflector Kit is used at the expense of 1000mm of straight flue run 10 TROUBLESHOOTING POINTS FOR THE BOILER USER Note n ine with our current warranty policy we would ask that you check through the following guide to identify any problems external to the boiler prior to requesting a service engineers visit Should the problem be found to be other than with the appliance we reserve the right to levy a charge for the visit or for any pre arranged visit where access is not gained by the engineer NO HOT WATER Check the mains switch fused spur is turned on and ensure switch mode control knob D Control Panels 46 is in the summer or winter position Is water coming out of the hot water tap when turned on See boiler Fault Codes section If O is displayed then contact Ideal Customer Services Helpline if your appliance is under warranty or a Gas Safe Registered Engineer in IE a Registered Gas Installer RGII if out of warranty Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engin
36. h the following guide to identify any problems external to the boiler prior to requesting a service engineers visit Should the problem be found to be other than with the appliance we reserve the right to levy a charge for the visit or for any pre arranged visit where access is not gained by the engineer NO HOT WATER Check the mains switch fused spur is turned on and ensure switch mode control knob D Control Panels 47 is in the summer or winter position Is water coming out of the hot water tap when turned on See boiler Fault Codes section If O is displayed then contact Ideal Customer Services Helpline if your appliance is under warranty or a Gas Safe Registered Engineer in IE a Registered Gas Installer RGII if out of warranty Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII NO CENTRAL HEATING Check the mains switch fused spur is turned on and ensure switch mode control knob D Control Panels 47 is in the winter position Check the programmer Cinternal or external to the boiler is in an ON position and the room thermostat is turned up Does the boiler operate and provide central heating Check the time settings on the programmer are as you require and adjust if necessary See boiler Operation Modes and Fault Codes section If O is displayed then contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer
37. h the following control knob D Control Panels 47 guide to identify any problems is in the summer or winter position Is water coming out of the hot water tap when turned on external to the boiler prior to requesting a service engineers visit Should the problem be found to be other than with the appliance we reserve the right to levy a charge for the visit or for any pre arranged visit where access is not gained by the engineer See boiler Fault Codes section If O is displayed then contact Ideal Customer Services Helpline if your appliance is under warranty or a Gas Safe Registered Engineer in IE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII if out of warranty Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII 43 NO CENTRAL HEATING Check the mains switch fused spur is turned on and ensure switch mode control knob D Control Panels 47 is in the winter position NO HOT WATER OR CENTRAL HEATING Check the fused spur is turned on and ensure switch mode control knob D Control Panels 47 is in the winter position Check the programmer internal or external to the boiler is in an ON position and the room thermostat is turned up Does the boiler have a display showing on the front control panel NO Does the boiler operate and provide central heating See boiler Operation Modes and Fault Codes section Check the time settings on
38. he boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 46 BOILER CONTROLS LOGIC COMBI 24 30 35 BOILER CONTROLS Pre heat On Off DHW Temperature Control CH Temperature Control Mode Control Boiler Status Burner on Indicator Pressure Gauge Condensate Drain Economy Mode off on K N ai z J J Ss EE Ps B E J A I0onmgoyp e i LOGIC SYSTEM 15 18 24 30 BOILER CONTROLS CH Temperature Control Mode Control Boiler Status Burner on Indicator Pressure Gauge Condensate Drain Economy Mode boiler boiler off on onmo In normal operation the control unit E will show the following codes O Standby no demand for heat C Central Heating being supplied D DHW being supplied P DHW preheat F Boiler frost protection boiler fires if temp
39. ight to levy a charge for the visit or for any pre arranged visit where access is not gained by the engineer Check the mains switch fused spur is turned on and ensure mode control knob B Control Panels 46 is in the ON position Check the programmer is in an ON position and the cylinder thermostat is turned up l NO Does the boiler operate and provide hot water YES Check the time settings on the programmer are as you require and adjust if necessary See boiler Operation Modes and Fault Codes section If O is displayed then contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in lE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII NO CENTRAL HEATING Check the mains switch fused spur is turned on and ensure mode control knob B Control Panels 46 is in the ON position Check the programmer is in an ON position and the room thermostat is turned up OPERATIONS MODE DISPLAY CODE DESCRIPTION ON THE BOILER burner T om burner burner burner rm The boiler is operating in frost mode 19 Does the boiler operate and NO provide central heating YES Check the time settings on the programmer are as you require and adjust if necessary See boiler Operation Modes and Fault Codes section If O is displayed then contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer CRGII The boiler is in standby mode awaiting
40. l mn A Li a O o CO N N N KO N FEATURES COMPACT DIGITAL FROST DISPLAY PROTECTION SPECIFICATION 31 FLUE LPG NOx VARIANTS CONVERSION CLASS 5 Complete range of Logic combination EASY TO INSTALL boilers for social new build developers Achieves optimum SAP and DER ratings for standard combination boiler usage Higher DHW flow rates than standard boiler approximately 10 increase RELIABLE Energy Saving Trust endorsed product High DHW efficiency reduced running costs Less waste DHW water as DHW inlet is preheated Reduced pluming on DHW ErP compliant One single appliance to install quick and easy Built in pipework no extra space at the side of the product needed Standard combination connections No additional maintenance requirement Compact and light solution for social new build or retrofit installations THE QUEEN S AWARDS FOR ENTERPRISE Available with 38 kW model 32 CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS 2 5 J 25 from case 165 Flue terminal 830 T 0OO0E OE Too 400 f ne sis 1al Note The minimum front clearance when built in to a cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm overall clearance with the cupboard door open is DIMENSIONS required for servicing Height 850mm Width 395mm Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced De
41. l for hot water but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler is operating in central heating mode The boiler is operating in hot water mode The boiler is operating in pre heat mode The boiler is operating in frost mode FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER ies burner burner burner burner burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION Outside sensor failure Low mains voltage Unconfigured PCB Boiler resets in 15 minutes ACTION Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Contact a qualified electrician or your electricity provider Unconfigured PCB Please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer CRGII 1 Turn power off and on at the fused spur 2 If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 13 FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER DESCRIPTION ACTION Suner T False flame lockout Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or al
42. ll maintain comfort levels and ensure the system doesn t freeze 4 Average High 5 High FOR FULL INSTRUCTION DETAILS REFER TO THE IDEAL LOGIC USERS GUIDE 48 COMBINATION BOILER CONTROLS PROGRAMMABLE THERMOSTATS AND TIMERS Here at Ideal we believe that choosing the right control to meet the needs of your customer is almost as important as choosing the right product this is why our boilers are fully compatible with a range of thermostats and timers for the ultimate in home comfort _ EXTERNAL z ROOM CONTROLS e I J _ Image shown is 208774 gt MECHANICAL TIMER Part No 204839 Simple heating control through a plug in analogue timer 24 hour tappet operation with off timed continuous periods ELECTRONIC TIMER Part No 204545 Easy to use heating control through a plug in digital timer Plain text operating and diagnostics information 7 day and up to 3 time periods day Automatic summer winter time update RF MECHANICAL PROGRAMMABLE THERMOSTAT Part No 204824 Wireless radio frequency RF analogue timer and room thermostat providing heat control Easy to use 24 hour tappet control 49 RF MECHANICAL um TIMER AND ROOM THERMOSTAT KITS Part No 208352 rz Easy to use radio frequency timer RF complete Ga y with room thermostat The timer is prewired with plug in connections to the boiler wiring and features a 24hr tappet operation with off time
43. lternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII maa rm gt BCC fault Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please saroe burner contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII rm a Unconfigured PCB Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please urna burner contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII w m aN aa Flame loss See Action Fault Code L 2 burner burner pun My 28 FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER DESCRIPTION ACTION Fan fault Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please burner burner contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII i Loy Flow thermistor Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please burner burner contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Cc LI Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Return thermistor Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please
44. m vertical drain pipes or soil pipes BS5440 1 2008 6 From an internal or external corner or to a boundary alongside the terminal BS5440 1 2008 7 Above ground roof or balcony level 8 From a surface or a boundary facing a terminal 9 From a terminal facing a terminal 10 From an opening in a car port eg door or window into dwelling 11 Vertically from a terminal on the same wall 12 Horizontally from a terminal on the wall VERTICAL FLUES 13 Above the roof pitch with roof slope of all angles Above flat roof 14 From a single wall face From corner walls 15 Below velux window 16 Above or side of velux window MIN SPACING 300mm 12 25mm 1 75mm 3 25min GO 200mm 8 25mm Cl 200mm 8 25mm 1 150mm 6 25mm 1 300mm 12 SCOmm d2 600mm 24 1200mm 48 1200mm 48 1500mm 60 300mm 12 300mm 12 5300mm C2 00mm 12 00mm 12 2000mm 79 600mm 24 Only one reduction down to 25mm is allowable per installation otherwise BS5440 1 2008 dimensions must be followed If chimney penetrates dotted area such that A is less than 300mm B shall not be less than 300mm A 600mm B 2000mm The flue terminal shall not penetrate the shaded area of the roof 54 FLUEING OPTIONS LOGIC COMBI CES HEAT amp SYSTEM HORIZONTAL CONCENTRIC 100MM DIAMETER NOTE Lengths are from ou
45. n have a differential across the boiler in excess of 30 C burner burner Flame loss 1 Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a E 3 supply is present in the property I L 2 If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances check the gas supply is on at the meter and or pre payment meter has credit If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer E if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer CRGII burner burner Er Fan fault Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner i Loy Flow thermistor Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner a E u Return thermistor Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe ia r Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner 14 LOGIC SYSTEM 15 18 24 30 HIGH EFFICIENCY SYSTEM BO
46. no 208174 Flue vertical connector Ideal part no 208175 Weather collar flat roof 100mm S Ideal part no 152259 73 Flue elbow 90 kit 60 100 packaged W Ideal part no 203130 Powered vertical flue kit 100mm Ideal part no 203134 Flue finishing kit Ideal part no 155988 74 FLUEING amp INSTALLATION ACCESSORIES LOGIC CODE COMBI ES Roof flue kit inc vertical connector Ideal part no 211039 Flue extension 0 5m or 2m Ideal part no 0 5m 211037 2m 211038 DHW expansion vessel kit Ideal part no 205419 At O Powered flue kit Ideal part no 203136 Stand off kit Ideal part no 206383 Pressure gauge extension kit O Q HD Ideal part no 206712 Concentric flue Secondary flue screw retaining extension kit 1000x80mm pair Ideal part no Ideal part no 205024 203142 Condensate pump kit Stand off kit Inc piping Ideal part no Ideal part no 206679 159991 Weather compensation kit Ideal part no 211326 Combi 211332 Heat amp System 1 Combi amp System only for Heat models 206153 2 Combi only for System models only 206154 3 Logic Combi amp System only INSTALLATION ACCESSORIES Pre piping kit Security bracket kit INSTALLATION ACCESSORIES Opentherm harness kit PRV wall outlet pipe kit Balcony flue outlet kit Ideal part no 208177 IDEAL PART NO 206704 206708 IDEAL PART
47. p SYSTEM INSTALLATION IDEAL comel HEAT SYSTEM Pre piping kit 211041 V x x Pre piping kit 211331 x x v Security bracket kit 205217 V vA Y WETALLATION IDEAL comei EAT SYSTEM Opentherm harness kit 211327 v x x PRV wall outlet pipe kit 205126 v x DHW expansion vessel kit 205419 v x x Balcony flue outlet kit H Ideal part no 208177 Soffit kit Ideal part no 211302 Raised horizontal flue outlet kit NOTE A 1 metre vertical pipe is supplied as standard Both horizontal and vertical lengths can be extended using extension pack D Refer to installation instructions for maximum lengths Ideal part no 208290 63 64 ACCESSORIES HIGH LEVEL FLUE OUTLET KIT These easy to install kits allow the boiler flue outlet to be extended external to the building upwards to provide a flue exit at high level overcoming problems associated with plume emission The kit can be simply fitted retrofitted if necessary excluding rear outlet of Logic Heat An external 60mm diameter flue leads from the boiler terminal which includes a 90 elbow at the flue exit to terminate with a 90 elbow complete with grille Push fit one metre extension pipes are used as required and the fixing clips supplied support the system from the wall Both 90 and 45 elbows are available to provide routing options THE KIT COMPRISES Flue elbow 1 off 60mm flue exit elbow 1 off 60mm horizontal flue exit 1 o
48. pth 278mm to 5mm However 100mm is required for servicing FLUE LENGTHS CODE COMBI ES 26 CODE COMBI ES 33 CODE COMBI ES 38 Max horizontal 9m 8m 6m Max vertical 75M Powered vertical 22m 33 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION Weight packaged kg Max installation weight kg CH output kW Min Max O C CH output kW Min Max 40 C DHW output kW Max DHW flow rate l min 35 C rise SEDBUK rating 2005 SEDBUK rating 2009 NOx classification Adjustable to LPG Condensing boiler Seasonal space heating efficiency class Rated heat output kW Seasonal space heating energy efficiency nson Sound power level indoors Lwa dB Water heating energy efficiency class Multiple flue kits available cone ggr 41 3 5 9 4 8 24 2 De 25 0 Zen 10 7 oI 89 0 No 45 Each 90 elbow used is at the expense of and each 45 elbow is used at the expense of 600mm of straight flue run BI oe oe 41 4 41 6 36 0 36 2 6 1 24 2 ERA 6 4 25 6 75 25 6 527 582 13 4 15 7 91 1 91 89 0 88 9 CLASS 5 No Yes Yes A 24 93 45 44 A 1000mm of straight flue run t Typical combined primary and secondary length See installation instructions for more details Note The Flue Deflector Kit is used at the expense of 1000mm of straight flue run 34 TROUBLESHOOTING POINTS FOR THE BOILER USER Note n ine with our current warranty policy we would ask that you check throug
49. tact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Check system pressure is between 1 amp 1 5 bar on the pressure gauge If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII ic a burner burner burner burner burner burner burner pes My a 5 L DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER burner burner burner burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION Low water pressure Flow temperature Control no flow Return thermistor 21 ACTION Check system pressure is between 1 amp 1 5bar on the pressure gauge If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period
50. tact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 22 LOGIC HEAT 12 15 18 24 SO HIGH EFFICIENCY HEAT BOILERS Designed to be installed with the minimum of fuss Logic appliances offer a speedy installation ideal L LL I O O ar N SJ N ee LO N FEATURES 23 DIGITAL DISPLAY COMPACT FROST PROTECTION L4 LPG DIRECT NOx CONVERSION REAR FLUE CLASS 5 SPECIFICATION e Fully modulating operation down to 4 8 kW e Weather compensation kit option e Water flow sensor e Four optional language user instructions RELIABLE e Energy Saving Trust endorsed product e Boiler frost protection e Two stage flame sensing for greater reliability e Latest generation Honeywell gas valve e ErP compliant FLUE VARIANTS EASY TO INSTALL Compact cupboard fit Direct 80mm diameter rear flue option Wide range of flueing options Low lift weight 23kg t Top system connections 75mm deep translucent condensate siphon Stand off kit Terminal wall plate kit Security bracket kit Low minimum head requirement LPG conversion kit available for 24 kW amp 30 kW boilers THE QUEEN S AWARDS FOR ENTERPRISE Available with 24 amp 30 kW models 30 kW only 6 1 kW 2 Available to download from www idealboilers com t Weight with front panel removed 24 CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS Direct rear flue terminal Flue terminal
51. tered Gas Installer RGII Contact a qualified electrician or your electricity provider Unconfigured PCB Please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 1 Turn power off and on at the fused spur 2 If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER ro jaa E D ce burner burner burner burner burner burner burner burner burner ja a D I N E r E iy burner burner burner burner burner burner burner burner burner DESCRIPTION BCC activation fault BCC fault Low water pressure Flow temperature overheat or no water flow Flame loss Fan fault Flow thermistor Return thermistor 45 ACTION Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact
52. ternal to the boiler prior to requesting a service engineers visit Should the problem be found to be other than with the appliance we reserve the right to levy a charge for the visit or for any pre arranged visit where access is not gained by the engineer NO CENTRAL HEATING OR HOT WATER Check the mains switch fused spur is turned on and ensure mode control knob B Control Panels 47 is in the ON position Check the Timer is in an ON position and the room thermostat is turned up See boiler Operation Modes and Fault Codes section If O NO is displayed then contact a Gas provide central heating Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer YES RGII Check the time settings on the programmer are as you require and adjust if necessary 27 OPERATIONS MODE DISPLAY CODE DESCRIPTION ON THE BOILER The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water demand burner ma l The boiler has a call for central heating hot water but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler burner ma g burner The boiler is operating for central heating hot water The boiler is operating in frost mode burner FAULT CODES DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER DESCRIPTION ACTION BCC activation fault Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please Burner bunner contact Ideal if under warranty or a
53. ternatively a Gas Safe my Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII C je BCC activation fault Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner ee l p e l r BCC fault Check the correct BCC is fitted for the boiler and securely inserted burner burner into the slot at the front left of the PCB Identified by the label on the BCC If yes then replace the current BCC with a new one correctly labelled for the boiler If it is incorrect turn off the power then insert correctly into PCB after switching power back on restart the boiler jaa My Low water pressure Check system pressure is between 1 amp 1 5bar on the pressure gauge r If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under is i warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner Flow temperature Is the boiler and CH heating system filled and all isolation vales serne pucer overheat or no and radiators open If not then fill and vent the system and open l water flow all isolation valves and restart the boiler Check that the pumps are rotating freely and the flow and retur
54. ternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner lt l pam My burner burner ma E E Fan fault Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner Loy Flow thermistor Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner Om Fi Ie Return thermistor Reset the appliance if the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal Cif under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe ia Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII burner burner 38 LOGIC COMBI ES 24 30 35 HIGH EFFICIENCY COMBINATION BOILERS Optimised for new build compliance following the SAP 2009 design procedure the Logic Combi ES is particularly beneficial for new build properties UY nm A O O O ar LO N QO N lt j N 39 FEATURES gt lt A COMPACT DIGITAL FROST FLUE LPG NOx DISPLAY PROTECTION VARIANTS CONVERSION CLASS 5 SPECIFICATION
55. tside edge of turret to outside wall face Where extension D Packs are cut to length flared end connector must be retained FOR LOGIC HEAT ONLY REAR OUTLET FLUE 55 80 SEE P 66 FLUE IDEAL MAXIMUM STRAIGHT PART NO FLUE LENGTH MM Standard horizontal B pack 208171 556 Telescopic B pack flue 208169 484 Standard horizontal B pack 208171 6 x extension pack D 6 x 203129 206 Laa MOENS Telescopic B pack flue 208169 6 x extension pack D 6 x 203129 T m Standard horizontal B pack 208171 8 x extension pack D 8 x 203129 9106 t90 MEX length enm Telescopic B pack flue 208169 8 x extension pack D 8 x 203129 SORES ane ea SIM Standard horizontal B pack 208171 9 x extension pack D 9 x 203129 SOOO 112724 MOAIS Telescopic B pack flue 208169 9 x extension pack D 9 x 203129 AOU A a meelele FLUE Standard horizontal B pack 90 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 5 x Extension pack D 90 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 5 x extension pack D 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 7 x extension pack D 90 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 7 x extension pack D 90 elbow Standard horizontal B pack 8 x extension pack D 90 elbow Telescopic B pack flue 8 x extension pack D 90 elbow IDEAL PART NO 208171 2031530 208169 203130 208171 5 x 203129 203130 208169 5 X 205129 2031350 208171 7 x 203129 203130 208169

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