Geimhreadh 2009 - Cumann Gaeilge na hAstráile
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1. As an adult learner of Irish you will be very familiar with the prob lems faced by other adult learners Has this influenced the site de sign I would like to think so The colour scheme was a logical one after the name was chosen and a logo developed The structure is hoping to reflect learners needs Under Classes amp Events are class listings When I made my first few attempts to take up Irish I trawled the internet trying to find suitable venues or classes in Sydney where I lived at the time That was quite a few years ago and a lot of sites have since sprung up and admittedly I had problems distinguish ing between Gaeilge and Gaelic hence coming primarily across sites that dealt with Scots Gaelic But bottom line was that I found it impossible to find classes where to start and so on The Learning Resources would hopefully be a good companion for learners particularly in their early and intermediate stages Under Living Language Use amp Share a learner in any stage of their learning but realistically once they become a little bit more proficient can try out his or her Gaeilge in fun ways And finally what advice would you give to any one learning Irish Prepare yourself to answer this question many times over Why are you learn ing Irish for you are about to join a fraternity of sorts which can be a little bit insular Outsiders often react with sheer in2. mi Marta bhi Eamon O Cuiv Aire Gn tha Pobail Tuaithe agus Gaeltachta ar cuairt ar an Astr il I dteannta an tAm basad ir M irt n O Fain n th inig s agus a bhean ch ile go dt Club na gCeilteach mar a bhuail s le baill d ea gra ochta Eireannacha Bh a l n Gaeilgeoir i l thair chun labhairt leis i nGaeilge D irt s go raibh ionadh air go raibh an oiread sin Gaeilgeoir san Astr il Rinne s tagairt don mhaoini at thab hairt ag Rialtas na hE ireann d Ollscoil Sydney le haghaidh m ineadh na Gaeilge ansin Chomh maith thug s bronntanais litreacha agus l n ochta leis 23rd June 30th June 7th July 14th July 21st July 22nd July An Fhuinneog Ghaelach scoileanna lan Gaeilge i nGail limh do phaisti a d fhulaing an loscadh sl ibhe i Victoria i mi Feabhra Roimh imeacht thug an tAire agus an tAm basadoir cuairt ar leabharlann agus oifig an Chumainn thios staighre sa Chlub agus bhi seans ag Eamon O Neachtain agallamh a chur ar Eamon O Cuiv i gcom hair an chl ir raidi Gl r na nGael Ba mh r an sochar don ard rang i rith an t arma seo go raibh ro innt taistealaithe linn ar feadh tamaill Wendy Sara agus Anna agus Gaeilge bhre l ofa acu Cuireann cail n Eirean Key Dates for June July 2009 Last class of term 2 Holiday Holiday Teacher meeting First class of term 3 AGM date to be confirmed nach eile Ailbhe go m
3. my Bread amp Butter Having said that I think my biggest advantage is that I m also very experi enced on the Learner side I have only been trying to wrap my head around this language for a bit over three years and either re member very well the be wilderment brought about exotic concepts or am still in the midst of grappling with certain concepts I have had the great privi lege to attend classes with gifted educators during my time at Sydney University as well as at Daonscoil and Scoil Gheimhridh I try to emulate unkind tongues would call it pinch what they are doing and hope fully have their blessing Agallamh na miosa Elke Watson ag caint faoi loraRua It is very easy to go over board and throw every thing at a learner This is where the teaching experi ence comes in Rome was not built in a day To point out too many concepts is more likely to be catastro phic than of any use For a learner it s very easy to have that sinking feeling setting in that this is too much and I will never get my head around that The hardest aspect for me would be not to go too technical with grammatical terms and concepts I have enjoyed and suffered a very thorough Grammar education not once but twice as part of my Ger man and English courses I have spoken to many older people who didn t have Grammar in school much at all and also the younger generation nowa days are relatively spared by Gr
4. r leis an gcomhr agus beidh s linn ar feadh tr imhse fada mar aon le Ciara at d reach tar is tosn Taisteala eile a bh onn i l thair n Jim gur mhian leis feabhas a chur ar a chuid Gaeilge B onn f ilte ar leith ro imh na daoine ga as Eirinn a thagann chu gainn Information given here about term dates is for students in Victoria only and Interstate students should check with their local teacher www gaeilgesanastrail com Cumann Gaeilge na hAstr ile Geimhreadh 2009 1 06 2009 San Eagr n Seo Cuairteoir go 1 Melbourne T imid ar Face 2 book Logainmneacha 2 Imeachta sa 3 Chumann SMS as Gaeilge 4 AGM ag teacht 5 Agallamh na 6 7 m osa Irish Language classes each Tuesday during school terms 7 30 pm in the Celtic Club Melbourne N Leathanach 2 An Fhuinneog Ghaelach T imid ar Facebook Le Karolyne Paron facebook nois a chairde t imid ar Facebook A Su omh s isialta ata ann Ta s saor in aisce agus ar oscailt do chach Is f idir leat com hra le daoine grianghraif a chur ar do leathanach daoine ags la a chuardach agus go leor imeachta eile a dh anamh ann M t leathanach Facebook agat cheana f in is f idir leat a bheith mar chara ag an gCumann Cuardaigh Cumann Gaeilge na hAstr ile agus beidh t in ann imeachta a chom hroinnt linn grianghraif a chur ar an leathanach n f gra a chur ann nuair a bhei
5. FOD anakana AAA ENR mobile R omhbhost sssrin eee kii nrak kinan kn AENEAS NAAR email Membership fee is 30 per annum and due each January Class fee is 4 per week
6. Ghaelach New Membership SIOMNME hmearmemhatammainimmmirimimimmmmi moms surname C ad ainimh srana naaa a AN first name Seoladh arinnar Naani address Cumann Gaeilge na hAstr ile Teo arlamh M ire Mhic Ghiolla osa IRISH LANGUAGE ASSOCIATION OF AUSTRALIA INC Patron Mary McAleese President of Ireland Cumann Gaeilge na hAstr ile the Irish Language Association of Australia is a non profit organisation run entirely by volunteer tutors and a voluntary committee of management Its aim is to promote the Gaelic language as a second language within the Australian community and to form networks with other cultural heritage and Gaelic speaking groups Formally established back in 1992 the ILAA offers structured weekly language classes to students of all ages nationalities and walks of life across a range of levels absolute beginners basic intermediate advanced as well as the opportunity to practice and converse together in a supportive environment Members receive a quarterly newsletter access to the library and also enjoy weekly singing and infor mal conversation sessions as well as participation in social events and residential language schools Irish Language Association of Australia Inc 320 Queen Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Annual Membership Application or notification of change of address telephone number mobile email Renewal Update Guthan Dheere anna phone
7. aicearra le go mbeidh t in ann teacht air go tapaidh F ach ar an leabhr n don s ideoir a th ining le do ghuth n chun a fh il amach conas seo a dh anamh 1 Visit http wap teacs ie en using your phone s WAP or web browser 2 Follow the instructions that appear T acs itself is free but there may be a network charge for you to download it depending on your network provider and contract o If you re asked to select an access point you should choose whichever one your network provider recommends o If you re a Vodafone customer choose Vodafone live as your access point See here for details on how much this costs www vodafone ie vlive cost o If you r not a Vodafone customer feel free to visit your network provider s web site to determine which charges if any apply 3 Open T acs on your phone the way you d usually open a game or Java application 4 Inthe unlikely event that you experience a problem whilst downloading T acs o Clear the cache in your phone s Internet browser using your browser s options menu o Power off and then power on your phone o Check whether your phone is compatible and its expected performance in the Compatible Phones tab http teacs ie phones o Email feedback teacs ie if you still experience difficulty 5 Help is available on your phone on each screen by selecting the Cabhair option on the menu 6 It is a useful idea to put the T acs application on a shortcut key to access
8. ain a postal vote from the Secretary Nomi nations for the positions of Office Bearers and Ordinary Members of the Committee will open on Tues 30th June 2008 and will close prior to the AGM on 22nd July 2009 Nominations may be lodged with the Secretary either in person or by mail and may be accompa nied by renewal of membership REMEMBER You must be a current financial member to nominate attend and vote Leathanach An Fhuinneog Ghaelach WWW lorarua com ur feature inter view continues on the perennial subject of why Why do you think peo ple are always keen to learn languages Well it beats signing up for Microsoft Access Operate a database application 101 in my opinion Learning languages for adults has many benefits for example it keeps the Dings at bay the what s it called Ah yes memory loss even dementia and Alzheimer s It s a wonder ful experience and unlocks a whole new world To un derstand a particular cul ture more it is inevitable to study its language as well For travelers the benefits are endless of course Most people around the world will ap preciate someone even making the effort or know ing a few words The benefit of learning Irish becomes evident when you queue at the Bus ras to take the bus to Wexford and know to get on the one to Loch Garman Seriously now I guess it s fair to say that there is largely sentimental value for people studyin
9. ammar compared to us At times it also just comes down to explaining things in a different way If terms like Nominative Genitive etc put blank looks into someone s eyes why not explain to them how would you ask for it Whose what whom etc What are your future plans for IoraRua com The main aim right now is to drive more traffic to the site and get people to ac tively use the proffered sections and areas post cooking recipes submit ideas and contributions to the discussion forum up load Irish language videos or share what they found on YouTube give an ap praisal of their learning material in the Review sec tion The Movers amp Shakers famous Gaeilgeori sec tion is in constant need of attention I m adding new Geimhreadh 2009 Leathanach 7 Elke Watson talks to An Fhuinneog Ghaelach about loraRua articles as I find the time There are a few plans in the pipeline the most ex citing one being a Film Competition It s still early days and nothing has ma terialised yet but as they say Watch this space One of the things I want to publish is a section ex plaining local blas Much is written about the dialects of Munster Ulster Con nacht Irish I don t want to get into the Phonology perhaps not even so much into the different uses of verbs etc either Currently I just want to have audio files of native speakers of these areas all reading out the same texts
10. credu lity and the question they are asking is Why are you learning Irish Don t let that put you off though we have a won derful community here in Australia made up of mostly expats or people with Irish background with a smaller sprinkling of other assorted people What could first be per ceived as the aforemen tioned insular mood will without doubt soon dissi pate and you will feel like a member of a very special group of people If at all possible attend a class look up IoraRua com s class locator if in doubt The mechanics of the lan guage seem very perplexing at first and would be best explained by a teacher rather than trying to read up about it The sounds the changes of nouns s im hid ur etc Invest in a few resources I still find Progress in Irish the best book to begin with unless you want to investi gate grammatical concepts which this one does not ex plain much There are plenty of tapes and other books some of more value than others Ask fellow learners Then definitely get yourself off to any of the Immersion weekend or language schools you can They are invaluable to one s learning as so much vocabulary is picked up in an informal way Don t fret over the things you can t do yet or don t know rejoice over the knowledge you have gained the fact that you can sing along to Or S Do Bheatha Bhaile Little steps little steps x x An Fhuinneog
11. dh t mar chara Ach abair nach bhfuil tuairim agat cad is Facebook ann Bhuel a chairde is f idir liom cab hair a thabhairt duit Ar dt s caithfidh seoladh r omhphoist a bheith agat T igh go dt www facebook com agus cl raigh isteach ag s id do sheoladh r omhphoist beidh ort focal faire a chur ann smaoinigh ar cheann duit f in Beidh ort eolas f t f in a chur isteach agus ansin beidh do leathanach f in agat Is f idir leat cuireadh a thab hairt do dhaoine a bheith mar do chairde m t leathanach acu Is f idir leat a bheith mar leant ir do ghr pa n dhaoine ch ili la n fi amh in do bhanna ceoil Mar a deirtear cabhra onn Facebook leat ceangail agus roinnt leis na daoine i do shaol M s mian leat is f idir do chuid Facebook a chur i nGaeilge chomh maith T igh go dt an rogha settings agus clice il ar language Ansin beidh do rogha ann agus clice il ar Gaeilge Easca go leor agus beidh t in ann do chuid Ghaeilge a chleachtadh n os minice freisin www placenames ie ilbhe Nic Daid now attending our weekly classes worked for Coiste Logainmneacha Chorcai Chiarral before setting off on her travels Here she tells us some of the history be hind the names Ta si l id lainn i gcathair Chorca darb ainm Lovers Walk Is f idir si l a th gaint faoi na crainn ag f achaint theas ar an Laoi agus ar Dhro ichead Ph draig an nasc idir tuaisceart agus de
12. do ghuth n cheana 1 T igh go dt http wap teacs ie ar bhrabhs la WAP n gr as in do ghuth in 2 Lean na treoracha a thiocfaidh an os T T acs f in chur ar f il saor in aisce ach f adfaidh go ngabhfaidh costas l onra leis an osl d il ag brath ar do shol thr ir l onra agus ar do chonradh M iarrtar ort pointe rochtana a roghn ba ch ir duit cib ceann a mholann do shol thr ir l onra a roghn M s custaim ir Vodafone t roghnaigh Vodafone live mar phointe rochtana F ach anseo le haghaidh sonra maidir leis an gcostas a ghearrfar ort www vodafone ie vlive cost Mura custaim ir Vodafone t t igh chuig su omh gr as in do shol thr ra l onra chun a fh il amach c na t ill a bheidh ann m s ann 3 Oscail T acs ar do ghuth n mar a d oscl f cluiche n feidhmchl r Java go hiond il 4 C nach d cha go dtarl idh fadhb agus T acs osl d il agat m tharla onn aon fhadhb Glan an taisce ar bhrabhs la Idirl n do ghuth in tr chl r roghanna do bhrabhs la a s id M ch do ghuth n agus ansin cuir ar si l aris Faoin gcluais n Guth in Oiri nacha http teacs ie phones seice il an bhfuil do ghuth n oiri nach agus c n fheidhm ocht at luaite leis Seol rphost chuig aiseolas teacs ie m t deacracht f s agat 5 T cabhair ar f il ar do ghuth n ar gach sc ile n ach br ar Cabhair faoin roghchl r 6 Is m r is fi feidhmchl r T acs a chur mar
13. g Irish which is completely valid too It is often the language of their ances tors thereby creating a link to their very roots I find it even interesting from a purely linguistic point the way certain things are phrased like ownership tells a story For me personally I am also able to draw links be tween my own language German and the Ostfr nk ische dialect of the Nurem berg area and Irish I can ponder for hours whether run comes from the Ger manic word Rune meaning letter or even secret or vice versa I think anyone here in Aus tralia who has an interest in convict history would benefit from at least dab bling in Irish a little bit as it would help raise aware ness about certain turns of phrases or place names Lastly how much fun is it anyway to join a group and study a language particu larly if it s not a require ment to get a job or pass an exam purely for the joy of doing the activity There is satisfaction when you are able to express first thoughts in your target language and there is the group experience of help ing each other along watching each other s pro gress being able to com municate more and more Explaining Irish or in deed any grammar can quickly become quite complicated How do you decide how much detail to put in My background is partly in Teaching and E Learning Instructional Design Not to overwhelm a learner to find the right sized chunks etc is
14. isceart na cathrach B ithr n gn thach is ea a mb onn pl daithe go h irithe tr thn na an Domhnaigh le leann in ga agus aosta ag spais teoireacht le ch ile An t ainm Ghaeilge a tugtar ar an it n Si l na Lobhar As B arla Lepers Walk N l s sin r r m ns il Do bh odh oispid al thuas i nGleann Mhaighir agus b an b ithr n sin a th gadh na lobhair bochta ar a sl go dt an long a bh odh ag fanacht sa chuan chun dul ar oilithreacht sa Sp inn n sa R imh Le himeacht na blianta athra odh an t ainm agus de bharr na fuaimeanna th inig Lovers as Lobhar itainmneacha agus na hathruithe a thagann orthu sin an rud at faoi cheist ag an gCoiste Logainmneacha Chorca Chiarra S aidhm an Choiste n an bun mh ni a bhaint amach as logainmneacha D anann siad s r iarracht an dinn seanchas a mbaineadh leis na h iteanna a bhaili agus a choth Bail onn siad eolas acmhainn ag sula is suirbh a dheineadh i 1308 faoi Bhanr on Elizabeth an foinse is sine at le f il go hoifig il Foinse eile at an th bhachtach don tionscnamh n Cartlann Roinn B aloideas na hEireann 1938 Chuaigh an Roinn chun cainte le daoine iti la tim peall na t re ag iarraidh eolais a bhaint amach faoin Gh rta M r An b aloideas agus dinnseanchas at bailithe sna r iteas san n f idir luach a chur orthu T ann an Coiste tr d an chartlainn agus roghna onn siad eolas agus sc a
15. it rapidly Check with your phone s user manual for details on how to do this You don t have to be a Vodafone customer to use this software It was developed in conjunction with Microsoft Ireland and its now freely available to anyone It works here in Australia Geimhreadh 2009 x Cruinni Bliant il 2009 Toghch n an Choiste le haghaidh na bliana 2009 Annual General Meeting and Election of Committee of Management 2009 10 7 30 pm 22nd July First Floor Celtic Club BUSINESS Opening remarks apologies Minutes of previous AGM Matters and correspondence arising from previous AGM Receive Annual Reports from President Vice President and Treasurer Election for Office Bearers and Committee Members General Business and then any other business of which prior notice has been given Refreshments and constructive ideas who are willing to put in time effort and direct action to help administer the day to day affairs of the Cumann are requested to nominate for a position on the 2009 10 Committee Nomination forms are available from the Secretary Justin Cartwright jcartwright nuw org au Vinancial members with enthusiasm organisational skills practical abilities creative concepts All current financial members are eligible to nominate attend and vote at the AGM Membership may be renewed immediately prior to the AGM if you have not done so already Financial members eligible to vote but unable to attend may obt
16. lta bhartha Sl amh in eile a fhaigheann an Coiste eolas chomh aimseartha n tr l arsc ileanna iti la a sheolann siad chuig scoileanna agus grupa r igi nacha L onann siad san na l arsc ileanna le aon eolais at acu Cuire ann an Coiste an t eolas go l ir le ch ile i sraith im leabhair a mbaineann le gach aon phar iste baile f arthainne agus baile m r i gContae Chorca agus Chiarra Is Eamon Lankford sti rth ir an tionscnaimh agus ag deireadh na m osa bronnfar an ch ad bhaili ch in eile do Leabharlann N isi nta na hEire ann Nach maith an rud go bhfuil d chas agus stair na ndaoine faoi mheas agus faoi chosaint faoi dheireadh Go n ir leis an gCoiste le gach tion scnamh at i nd n d ibh obair luachmhar ria chtanach is ea XXX X Geimhreadh 2009 x Imeachta sa Chumann Aifreann as Gaeilge Eabhrach nuair a bh s ceithre bliana d ag d aois ar a chuid fhuirseoireacht agus go h irithe ar an bhliain a chaith s i gConnamara ag h Aifreann as Gaeilge in eaglais Naomh foghlaim Gaeilge Eoin Clifton Hill ar an gc ad Domhach de mh an Mh rta B Eamon O Neachtain a d eagraigh agus chan c r an Chumainn na h OAM iomainn Ar mbu ochas do N ir n Ui Chath in a threoraigh an c r In this year s Queen s Birthday list Dr Val Noone was honoured for service to education as an aca demic and historical researcher and to the community Ba
17. mhaith linn comhgairdeas a dh anamh le Val faoin on ir seo Maith an fear Ar o che D Mh irt 10 M rta in ionad na gn th ranganna bh o che s isialta againn Chuir gach rang m r i l thair agus tar is bia agus deoch a chaitheamh cuireadh ceann de chl racha In the Make a note in your diary for our AGM name of the Fada le Des Bishop ar si l Bhain gach full details on page 5 duine sult as an o che Gl r na nGael Beidh Gear id agus Se n ag imeacht go dt an Gaeltacht i m L nasa Go n ir an b thar libh Le linn an Comedy Festival i Melbourne le d ana Turas go h irinn 2010 thapaigh tr ocha duine n gCumann an deis chun freastal ar l iri Des Bishop agus i ndiaidh an se bh seans againn labhairt leis as Gaeilge ar Scheduled for August 2010 nd igh mar t Gaeilge l ofa aige M s mian leat Beidh eolas ag Deirdre i gceann tuilleadh eolais a fh il ar an bhfuirseoir seo t igh go dt a shu omh idirl n tamaill Nios d ana labhair Muiris Scanl in agus Si n Ui Mhaoldomhnaigh le Des Bishop i sti idio 3ZZZ le haghaidh an chl ir Gl r na nGael Thug s cur s os ar a shaol cuireadh ar scoil in Eirinn Nua Leathanach 4 An Fhuinneog Ghaelach Free software means you can now send sms as Gaeilge s f idir T acs a shuite il ar fhormh r m r na nguth n p ca at ar an margadh agus n chuirfidh s isteach ar aon mhodhanna iontr la t acs at ar
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