Service Bulletin - H and A Accessories
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1. 2011 American Honda Motor Co Inc All Rights Reserved ATB 38560 45664 1102 CORRECTIVE ACTION Install a taper shim kit and grind a deeper relief on the engine mount bracket if needed These 2007 Accord V6 vehicles also require water pump replacement 2 Door with M T From VIN 1HGCM8 7A002002 thru 1HGCM8 7A004104 2 Door with A T From VIN 1HGCM8 7A002029 thru 1HGCMB8 7A003983 4 Door with M T From VIN 1HGCM6E 7A037354 thru 1HGCME 7A060259 4 Door with A T From VIN 1HGCM6 7A034807 thru 1HGCM6 7A057992 PARTS INFORMATION Taper Shim Kit 2005 models P N 04148 RCA 305 2006 10 models P N 04148 RCA 306 Contains taper shim timing belt and timing belt drive pulley gear Water Pump 2007 Accord V6 only P N 19200 RDM A02 REQUIRED MATERIALS Hondalock 1 one container repairs about 10 vehicles P N 08713 0001 WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION The normal warranty applies With Water Pump Install a taper shim kit and a water pump and grind a relief on the engine mount bracket if needed Includes time to do the 1110A2 CKP Pattern Clear Learn 1110A3 Without Water Pump Install a taper shim kit and grind a relief on the engine mount bracket if needed Includes time to do the CKP Pattern Clear Learn Failed Part P N 15100 RCA A03 Defect Code 07403 Symptom Code 04201 Skill Level Repair Technician 1 of 5 CUSTOMER INFORMATION The information in this bulletin2. 33 Ib ft bend the shim s tab slightly towards the oil pump housing to keep it away from the idler pulley IDLER PULLEY J N a VANO oN Ve SHIM TAB 1 4 INCH DRIVE WRENCH EXTENSION 4of 5 20 21 Install a new timing belt drive pulley gear e Refer to Section 6 of the appropriate service manual or e Online enter keywords TIMING BELT and select Timing Belt Drive Pulley Replacement from the list Install a new timing belt NOTE Use the new belt Timing Belt Replacement Procedure not the used belt Timing Belt Installation Procedure e Refer to Section 6 of the appropriate service manual or e Online enter keywords TIMING BELT and select Timing Belt Replacement from the list Reinstall the CKP sensor if applicable and torque its bolt to 9 8 N m 7 2 lb ft Reassemble the remaining parts using the appropriate service manual procedures If you replaced the water pump make sure you bleed any air from the cooling system after refilling with the coolant you drained in step 1 Do the CKP pattern clear CKP pattern learn procedure Go to the appropriate procedure below NOTE If you don t do the CKP pattern clear learn procedure the ECM PCM may detect misfire when there is none and possibly set DTC s P0300 through POSO6 CKP Pattern Clear Learn Procedure 2005 06 Odyssey 2005 Pilot NOTE e The ECT must be at least 176 degrees F 80 degrees C 2005 Pilot only Before d
3. is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools equipment and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle These procedures should not be attempted by do it yourselfers and you should not assume this bulletin applies to your vehicle or that your vehicle has the condition described To determine whether this information applies contact an authorized Honda automobile dealer DIAGNOSIS NOTE If you are viewing this service bulletin on ISIS and your computer has sound click on Click to Play to hear an example of the noise Click to Play 1 Remove the drive belt e Refer to Section 4 of the appropriate service manual or e Online enter keywords DRIVE BELT and select the appropriate engine s Drive Belt Replacement from the list 2 Start the engine Do you still hear the noise Yes Go to REPAIR PROCEDURE No Reinstall the drive belt then continue with normal troubleshooting procedures REPAIR PROCEDURE NOTE On certain 2007 Accord V6 vehicles you will also be replacing the water pump see CORRECTIVE ACTION All other non water pump replacement steps apply to all affected vehicles 1 Affected 2007 Accord V6 only Drain the engine coolant into a clean container and save it for reuse e Refer to page 10 6 of the 2003 07 Accord V6 Service Manual Supplement or e Online enter keyword COOLANT and select Coolant Replacement V6 engine from the list 2 Set t
4. HONDA Service Bulletin Applies To See VEHICLES AFFECTED Chirp From the Timing Belt Area 08 045 February 17 2011 Supersedes 08 045 dated May 21 2010 to revise the information marked by the black bars REVISION SUMMARY Under REPAIR PROCEDURE step 8 a note about inspecting the timing belt auto tensioner was added SYMPTOM There is a chirp coming from the lower timing belt area The noise is most often noticed at idle usually after the engine has warmed up PROBABLE CAUSE The idler pulley mounting surface is tilted causing the edge of the timing belt to rub against the side of the pulser flange on the drive pulley gear VEHICLES AFFECTED 2005 07 Accord V6 ALL 2008 Accord 2 Door V6 with A T From VIN 1HGCS2 8A000001 thru 1HGCS2 8A005943 2008 Accord 4 Door V6 with A T From VIN 1HGCP3 8A000001 thru 1HGCP3 8A032544 2008 Accord V6 M T ALL 2009 Accord V6 M T From VIN 1HGCS2 9A000001 thru 1HGCS2 9A002647 2005 08 Odyssey ALL 2009 Odyssey From VIN 5FNRL3 9B000001 thru 5FNRL3 9B057721 From VIN 5FNRL3 9B400001 SFNRLS 9B411326 2005 09 Pilot ALL 2010 Pilot 2WD From VIN 5FNYFS8 AB000001 thru SFNYF3 AB002381 2010 Pilot 4WD From VIN 5FNYF4 AB000001 thru SFNYF4 AB003614 2006 08 Ridgeline ALL 2009 Ridgeline From VIN 2HJYK1 9H500001 thru 2HJYK1 9H503152 From VIN 5FPYK1 9B8100001 thru SFPYK1 9B8104340
5. he engine to TDC top dead center 3 Remove the crankshaft pulley e Refer to Section 6 of the appropriate service manual or e Online enter keyword PULLEY and select Crankshaft Pulley Removal and Installation from the list 2o0f 5 4 Remove the timing belt covers e Refer to Section 6 of the appropriate service manual or e Online enter keywords TIMING BELT and select Timing Belt Removal fron the list 5 Try to insert a 0 95 mm feeler gauge between the top edge of the timing belt idler pulley and the back of the side engine mount bracket overhanging the pulley This measurement is used to determine if step 12 is required NOTE Remove the feeler gauge from its holder to get a more accurate measurement FEELER SIDE ENGINE GAUGE MOUNT BRACKET IDLER PULLEY BACK SIDE OF THE SIDE ENGINE MOUNT BRACKET 6 Unbolt the CKP crankshaft position sensor if applicable and set it aside Do not disconnect the CKP harness connector 7 Remove the engine mount bracket 08 045 8 Remove the timing belt 12 If the feeler gauge fit in step 5 go to step 13 If the NOTE Remove the timing belt auto tensioner and feeler gauge did not fit in step 5 remove the side inspect the tip of the piston for signs of damage engine mount bracket Using a die grinder with a Test the tensioner by pushing it down against a flat 2 inch 50 grit grinding disc or equivalent and the surface The tensioner should not c
6. he ignition switch to ON Il Make sure the HDS communicates with the ECM PCM If it does not go to the DLC circuit troubleshooting select CRANK PATTERN in the ADJUSTMENT MENU with the HDS Select CRANK PATTERN LEARNING with the HDS and follow the screen prompts 08 045 5 of 5
7. oing this procedure check PULSER F B LEARN and PULSER F B LEARN HIGH RPM in the DATA LIST with the HDS If both values show N A this procedure is not needed 2005 Pilot only If only PULSER F B LEARN HIGH RPM shows N A skip steps 7 through 9 With the engine stopped clear the CKP pattern 2 Turn the ignition switch to LOCK 0 3 Turn the ignition switch to ON II and wait 30 seconds Test drive the vehicle on a level road decelerate with the throttle fully closed from an engine speed of 2 500 rom to 1 000 rom with the A T in 2 5 Stop the vehicle but keep the engine running 6 Check PULSER F B LEARN in the DATA LIST with the HDS If itis NOT COMPLETED go to step 4 If itis COMPLETED go to step 7 08 045 Test drive the vehicle on a level road decelerate with the throttle fully closed from an engine speed of 5 000 rom to 3 000 rpm with the A T in 2 8 Stop the vehicle but keep the engine running 9 Check the PULSER F B LEARN HIGH RPM in the 10 11 DATA LIST with the HDS If it is NOT COMPLETED go to step 7 If itis COMPLETED go to step 10 Turn the ignition switch to LOCK 0 Turn the ignition switch to ON II and wait 30 seconds The CKP learning procedure is complete 2005 09 Accord 2007 09 Odyssey 2006 10 Pilot 2006 09 Ridgeline 1 Connect the HDS to the data link connector DLC located under the driver s side of the dashboard 2 Turn t
8. ompress circular casting offset as a guide grind the side Replace it if it is damaged or if it compresses engine mount bracket until the lip measures 2 mm thick with a caliper or a micrometer GOOD TENSIONER BACK SIDE OF THE SIDE ENGINE MOUNT BRACKET 13 Affected 2007 Accord V6 only Replace the water pump and reuse the coolant you removed in step 1 e Refer to page 10 5 of the 2003 07 Accord V6 Service Manual Supplement or e Online enter keyword WATER and select Water Pump Replacement V6 engine from the list 14 Affected 2007 Accord V6 only Reinstall the timing belt adjuster 9 Affected 2007 Accord V6 only Remove the timing belt adjuster 10 Affected 2007 Accord V6 only Remove the water pump 11 Remove the timing belt idler pulley 08 045 3 of 5 15 16 Place the idler pulley shim between the idler pulley and the oil pump housing and loosely install the idler pulley bolt with Hondalock 1 applied to its threads Make sure to follow the assembly instructions on the Hondalock 1 container NOTE The shim tapers from left to right The word OUT is painted in white and stamped into the tang of the shim and should be readable when the shim is installed The shim is thicker on the left side When tightening the idler pulley bolt use the square end of a 1 4 inch drive ratchet extension to keep the shim s tab in the correct position After you torque the idler pulley bolt to 44 N m
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